[00:00:04] Speaker A: Hello, hello. Hello, everyone.
Welcome back to Mallory's Weird World Adventures, the podcast. I'm your host, Mallory.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: And I'm your host, Michael.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: And we're here to show you just how weird this world of ours really is.
So today, as promised, we have returned from the infamous ecad.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: We made it. Barely.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: I don't know, there was a moment there, I didn't think we were going to nuggets those nuggets.
For those who don't know, the Explorers Club annual dinner. That's ECAD. We've done it annually now since 2023. This is my third ECAD. Michael's second ECAD.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: I know.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: I'm a newer member by a very.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: Short amount of time, though.
[00:00:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I had to find the right sponsors. Took a while.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Well, you have one right here.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: I know, but I said the right sponsor.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: So for those who don't know about our podcast, we're gonna take a second here just to say that Mallory's Weird World Adventures. That's not right.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: You totally botched it.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: I botched it? I can't help it. I'm all fucked.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: Don't worry, it's only your name.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Weird World Adventures, the podcast shows you just how weird this world of ours really is. We highlight strange and unusual places around the world, as well as interesting adventures and unique belief systems. You can find
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And you can be sure to watch Weird World Adventures on Amazon Prime. Season one is out now, consisting of six episodes, and season two will drop in the fall of this year.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: Yay.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: All right, back to ecad.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Back to ecad.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: So every year, hundreds of the most interesting people you'll ever meet in your life gather together at the Explorers Club headquarters for a weekend of chaos.
And this is, I guess, e cat in a nutshell, so you can all just be pulled into this environment right away. I was driving up to New York very late on Thursday, thinking, okay, well, I'll get in super late. I'll be at the clubhouse Friday evening for the event, and I'll work Friday, and it'll be fine. And, you know, normally I get up there for Thursday because there's like a little mini gathering Thursday at the bar at the Explorers Club.
[00:02:38] Speaker B: I wouldn't know, but I've been told.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: And I was like, you know, I don't need to do that this year. I'm just gonna, you know, I'm gonna get all my stuff done. I'M gonna get up there. I'll be up there for Friday. And I'm driving in the car, and I got invited to this pre cad party from one of our board members in D.C. and, you know, I'm like, oh, you know, I'm probably not gonna make it, but okay, you know, And I was fine not going until I started getting the text of I just walked on fire, to which I was like, oh, man, now I have fomo.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: So much fomo.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: So much fomo. Come to find out, they had this elaborately crazy party. There's this member that lives in Yonkers who had fire walking and I guess a whole bunch of other cool stuff. But everyone was so obsessed with the firewalking. And the favorite thing that I learned about this is that nobody actually had firewalked before. There was no, like, pro or expert or somebody working on it. It was just a. Well, I've read that you could do this, so we're going to try it.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: You can, though. It's a physics trick. We've walked through.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: We have, but I'm just saying no one had done it before, and everyone was just going, yeah, everyone was all in. So that's just the kind of people that you get at the Explorers Club.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: Just keep walking.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Just keep walking in as few steps as possible.
Big strides, big strides. Keep walking quickly. Big strides.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it's heat transfer. That's why you use, like, coal that are ember. In ember form. And the soles of your feet are poor heat, like, poor transfer. Transfers of heat.
So if you move quick, there's just not enough time for any heat damage to even or even to sense it. Right.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: I mean, think about touching like a hot stove. Right?
The reason you, like, tap it really quick, Right. It's because you can. You can tell it's hot. It's, like, long enough to tell that the thing's hot, but you don't. It doesn't hurt. Right, Right. But if you left your, you know, finger on there for maybe a second, it would immediately hurt, like, burn, Right?
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: Metal is a very good conductor. And transfer, like heat of heat transfer and charcoal and bottom of your feet are not as long as you, you know, it's a lower temperature. They're not good at transferring heat.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: And if you just keep moving, it won't do any damage.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: Okay, good to know. Yeah, good to know.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Like, if you did that with, like, molten metal.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Right.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: It doesn't matter how fast you're gonna.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: You're gonna fry. And it hits there. Yes. That's a good point.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: Say you heated up chunks of steel or whatever.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: Obviously it's also way hotter. Cause metal take. But then the transfer of heat will be essentially instant. And.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:24] Speaker B: Will burn.
[00:05:25] Speaker A: You will burn painfully.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: And instead, same with the glass walking. It's like. It's a different trick.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: It's a weight distribution, right?
[00:05:31] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like a surface area.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Well, I didn't get to do it.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: See, Science is cool.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: Science is so cool.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: Total science is cool. Off. Shoot. Here I had a 9th grade teacher who had one of those, like, bed of nails.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: And he would, like, do the bed of nails trick for us in ninth grade. And we're like, bro, do you know what you're doing? And he also. He was the kind of guy that was unclear. Maybe he didn't like. If. If those just had impaled him and he died there, no one would have been particularly surprised. He gave off that vibe. I don't know if you know what you're doing here. I know that. I know it's a trick, but I don't think none of you know how to do the trick. But every year he would get on the thing, like, lay across it, and then he has the one that goes on top of him.
[00:06:22] Speaker A: And he'd be like, oh, my God.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: He'd be like nail sandwiched in. And then he would have someone stand on him. Like, stand on the thing. And we were like, this dude's gonna die.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: Are you serious?
[00:06:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: Are they allowed to bring that into school?
[00:06:35] Speaker B: Oh, who fucking knows? I mean, this guy wasn't playing with a full deck.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:06:42] Speaker B: And he had been there forever, so. So I'm sure just nobody had checked shit was in this guy's room. He also taught.
It was ninth grade, so it was like earth sciences.
[00:06:54] Speaker A: What does that have to do with earth science?
[00:06:56] Speaker B: Well, no, no, nothing. And I also learned no earth sciences because his actual passion was Civil War history.
But, you know, there is a class that teaches history, right?
[00:07:09] Speaker A: And you're not teaching, but you're teaching this. Oh, my God.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Anyways, total lunatic didn't die on the bed of nails. But science is cool.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
Meanwhile, my senior year, when I took physics in high school, first of all, my teacher's name was Mr. Watts. I thought that was pretty funny. And he taught, you know, physics. And he would teach us in a consolidated amount of time, so it was like an hour and a half class. He would teach us for 45 minutes. And in the second half of class, Say you can now do your homework or just do whatever. I don't care. So we wound up more than once on his computer because he didn't care what we did. Looking up Mayor McCheese and other old McDonald's characters that were retired. So I learned a lot about McDonald's history.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: That's good. Was that on the SATs?
[00:08:02] Speaker A: Definitely. Mer McCheese is, like, a common question.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: Yes, definitely.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: I learned to play poker in my physics class.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: She gave. She was a retired NASA engineer. I don't remember what her role at NASA was, but she did not work at NASA and took the very prestigious job of teaching a bunch of shithead 12th graders. Honors physics.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: And proceeded to teach nothing at all. And literally just gave us decks of cards, you know, little glass beads. We used those to gamble. She just, like, provided bags of them, and it was the, you know, the currency of gaming. And just, like, facing back to the board, no teaching. I don't even know what she was doing all day. But it wasn't interacting with the class in any way.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: I learned how to play poker.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Nice. Very nice.
The things we learn in school.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: No physics.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: No physics.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Which then did come back to haunt money. Like, then needed physics and undergrad and in medical school and as a radiologist, it was specifically necessary for every step of the way. And I always, always. I always felt like I was, like, a little behind. Right. Like a semester worth. Like a semester worth of knowledge behind. I had to, like, re. Catch up each time.
[00:09:24] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: It's pretty painful.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good. It was worth it anyway.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that was a tangent right there.
[00:09:33] Speaker A: E cat. E cat.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: So you missed the fire walking.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: I missed the fire walking. I was bummed about it. That's when the FOMO started happening, because I'm like, man, I could have been walking on fire tonight.
And made it in. Worked on Friday, and then kind of got to the clubhouse. Super late for. There's a bunch of festivities. Usually on Friday, they start pretty early because they do the lectures for the EC50, where they highlight 50 new explorers doing cool things, and then they have some lectures. They have different things throughout the day.
We sat in it the first year because we're like, oh, this is so great. We're so excited to be here. Yeah. And then the second year, we sat for, like, the EC50, and we're like, we're claustrophobic, and there's a lot of people in that room. Let's just hang out here in the other room where there's not lots of people.
And this year I was like, you know, maybe I don't need to be at all with all the people smushed into the lecture room. It would have been nice, but I had to get my work done. And I think I got to the club at like 3:00, which is like, you know, the in between where everyone's done now and nothing is happening, but people are just hanging out anyway because nobody ever leaves.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: It's a cool place to be.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: It's a cool place to just walk around and explore. I went up to the store and there was actually a bunch of people from the D.C. chapter just there. And I had gotten Chick Fil a nuggets because I was very, very hungry. I hadn't eaten yet. And so I just grabbed them on the way up to the club and got there and, like, came in with my nuggets. Like, why did I find a place to eat my nuggets? And then everyone's mead. I'm like, oh, crap, I can't eat my nuggets. So I walked around with the nuggets for a while and saw some people from our chapter in D.C. and said hi. And it is a very cool place to just hang out for that time. And when the first year that me and Dakota came, we were like, we have to go back to the hotel and get ready and be all dressed up. And our special new member reception starts at 4, so we have to be there at 5pm and you know, it's special just for us. And then everybody comes at six to the club. And then lo and behold, there are no rules at the Explorers Club. You get the itinerary and you think, okay, well, I have to be at these places at these times. And that's not actually true at all. It's more like a guidepost.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: Really, you just get there on Friday and you're there until it closes and then Kevin kicks you out.
It's always Kevin.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: It's an undesirable task.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: I know it has to be an undesirable job to be for sure.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: You're the guy that removes people.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: Right.
And I kind of went into this a bit too when I was talking with Trent. But, you know, the Friday night party, you follow the Norwegians because they have a special party in the Teddy Roosevelt Room.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: You say this. You've said this to other people, by the way, but every time I've heard you tell anybody. I mean, I think you told my mom this. You say it with such.
Well, obviously. And it's not obvious at all. That statement with no context means fucking nothing. Like you always follow the Norwegians. What the fuck did you just say to me?
[00:12:45] Speaker A: The first rule of Fight Club, the first rule of ecad is you follow Norwegian.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: I've heard multiple people with no. That have no context. And you say it and there's just no sense of like, I'll explain. It's just you say it as if it's self explanatory and requires no additional information. And every time I'm like there, I'm watching the other person. They're all just like, what is this girl talking about? Like, what are you.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: What are you talking about?
[00:13:12] Speaker B: Let me explain, please do.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: The Norwegians, they have a party in the Teddy Roosevelt Room. They have a party in the Teddy Roosevelt Room every year. And I think we met the woman who. I think it's her dad's office or something. That's why that she's part of that chapter that has it there. And they.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: So dad is famous explorer, I guess something.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Something along there. Yes.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: And living father, like current active.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: I don't know. Is it like a living person?
[00:13:44] Speaker B: Yes. Okay.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: Yes. There's a bunch of.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: My grandfather hido.
[00:13:47] Speaker A: No.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: Donated $100 million and now I have a room forever.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: There's a bunch of famous artifacts and things that are in the room. And it's called the Teddy Roosevelt Room for a reason. I couldn't tell you because I learn new things every time I go there. I don't know it all, but they have the party there. And first of all, it has all the good stuff. So they serve the cheap stuff for everybody downstairs, but the good stuff is in that room. And they also have.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: You wouldn't even know what. That's a good stuff.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: I don't. And I also was making an effort to not drink, but there was.
[00:14:21] Speaker B: Oh, my dear. Come on in. This is the good stuff. Can I interest you in some Aristocrat Vodka? I know it. I know it looks like it's in plastic in large quantities, but I assure you it's very good stuff.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: Well, they also have the finger foods. And I do know good finger foods. They have like the good food up there. They have the good food.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: You know, the fatty stuff.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: I do know the fatty stuff. They have all the good fatty stuff up there. So really just the treats and the drinks and everything, it's all up there. And there's that big table so you can kind of sit around the table and chill a little bit. And they just welcome everybody in.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: They're Crazy.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: Welcome. They're so nice. So it's not like a what are you doing at our party? It's like a come into our party. So it's like a secret, but it's a very welcome opening secret. That's not really a secret at all.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it doesn't stay secret very long when you're loudly inviting everybody in the place to come to your party, which is good.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: The first year that we were there, we met. There was this guy we started talking to that was a bodyguard, and he was, like, super discreet. And we're like, what do you do? Why are you here? I'm not a member of the club. What are you here for? You see that couple over there? That's Mr. Mr. So and so. They're. They're artifact collectors on their bodyguard. And we're like. And I was with Dakota, who goes, well, I don't know who they are, sir. And he's like, well, I'm glad you don't. That makes my job easier.
He was such a nice guy. Like, we became friends, but.
Yeah.
[00:15:43] Speaker B: What does that even mean, though?
[00:15:45] Speaker A: I mean, it must be, like, millions and millions of dollar, like, artifact items if they have a bodyguard following them around, right?
[00:15:53] Speaker B: I mean, they're rich. Or that. Or are they, like, they're protecting the artifacts? They're rich, and they're buying the artifact.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: I think they're buying the artifacts, and they're also buying someone to pay, like, attention to make sure they don't get ganged.
I mean, what. This is the first time I've ever encountered anything like this.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: How much is a. How much is a bodyguard for a day?
[00:16:16] Speaker A: I would look it up now, right? Like, hire a bodyguard for a day.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: It'd be a fun shtick to just, like, hire one and then. And, like, tell me, like, by the way, like, act like you don't. You're not supposed to tell everybody this, but make sure you tell everybody this. Oh, definitely point us out.
Oh, it's nothing.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: It's, like, nothing.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Okay. We have to do this just for some random. For some random event, right? Just. Yes, just tap them. Be like, all right, act like. Just act like you don't want to tell anybody.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: Nyx, explorers close out.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: Be very overt, you know, obvious about being there and that. Like, well, you know, I'm not supposed to tell you anything. But then also make sure everybody finds this out and point us out and be like, you see them over there.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: On their bodyguard next Friday night, ecad.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: That's the host of Weird World Adventures. I'm sure you know them. I'm their bodyguard.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. Next Friday night ecad.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: It's like stealth marketing.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Oh, it's great.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: By the way. Looked it up. 75 to $125 per hour for a personal bodyguard.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And you know, this would be New York City. Maybe it's a little more. Right. So $150 an hour. We'll say, say $200 in three hours.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: And we did it for three hours.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: 600 bucks.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: And it's like a stealth marketing campaign. It's like make the body. Make sure you talk to everybody and make it sound like they're not supp. Make sure they definitely know it.
It's weird. World Adventures point us out.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah, that's pretty good.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: We gotta do it.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Yeah, we definitely have to do it. And then the next year, I don't know, we met. There was somebody else that was like pretty famous in there. That Dakota was like fangirling over that. I was like, I don't know who they are. And then this year, this was the room where I met Nina, my new bestie.
We're gonna have Nina on, hopefully Nina Lanza. She is a planetary scientist.
And yeah, we're wait for her to tell you about it, but she's an astrogeologist, something like that. She worked on the Mars rover.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: It's pretty cool.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: I know.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: I don't want to take any steam out of that story she was telling me.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: It had a laser on it. I mean, there's some good episodes to come, you guys. And that was the room in which she bestowed the chickens upon me.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Silly. Ma'am, I'm there. Bodyguard. You see the woman over there?
[00:18:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Oh, she's a famous.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: TV show host. Wood World Adventures. Also owner of the penis gourd.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. She is the owner of the penis gourd. Ah, we just tell him about the penis gourd.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: But first. Okay, first jump the gun there.
You jumped the penis gourd. There's going to be a lot of penises in our future.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: Some more than others.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: That was the room in which I was bestowed the chicken.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: So Nina has this shtick where she acquired like a tiny, weird bead filled like rubber chicken from someone at a previous E cad.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Just a small version of a classic rubber chicken, like the yellow rubber chicken that you would know from everything.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: And she decided to get two more and make it three and like bestow them on people to take on their adventures to get Crazy pictures of chickens around the world. And I was bestowed a chicken. It was an honor. It was an honor.
[00:19:48] Speaker B: You've arrived.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: I've arrived. I got the chicken. And anyway, so that happened there.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: Chicken over there.
[00:19:58] Speaker A: I'm the chicken's bodyguard.
And then we kind of did our rounds and ran into Josh and Candy.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: And I have to subtly, discreetly say that I can't say it too loud, that Josh Gates was one of my inspirations into the world of exploration.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: Yeah, you've told me that.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: I know. And so when we wind up, you know, kind of partying with him all weekend and being buds, it's like a weird out of body experience for me where I'm like, what's happening with my life?
[00:20:37] Speaker B: We talked about this briefly, you know, off mic, but it's the kind of. We had like a flip flopped experience at like a convention recently. So if you've listened, back in the fall, we went to scicon, which was the, like, scientific Skepticism conference out in Vegas. And there's some of my personal skeptical heroes, Steven Nevelle and the skeptics guys. And just, you know, minor celebrities within this small community is kind of, you know, what they would be. But I remember seeing them getting on an elevator. I was like, I can't do that.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:21:16] Speaker B: And she just shows me on the elevator and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm with all my people.
And this felt the reverse of that.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: Because you were like, oh, I mean.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: I would love to like hang out with. With Josh and Kenya. I'm like, okay, like, whatever.
He's like, well, I mean, it was the same thing. I just. It had no, completely no effect on me. And you were just kind of. Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:37] Speaker A: And it's reverse at Saigon and at.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Saigon, I was just like, I made.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: All the friends just then go say.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Hi to them down the elevator with them.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: I made all the friends with ease because there were no stakes.
And then in the exploration world, it's like, oh, my gosh, that's so and so. Oh, my gosh, that's so and so. There's all these crazy people that have done these great things and I get the biggest, biggest imposter syndrome. And then we were hanging out.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: You're the chicken lady, though.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: I am the chicken lady. It's true.
And then plus, next year we're gonna.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: Have a bodyguard, Right.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: If we get the dates right.
Poor Michael. We were given the wrong dates. We were given the wrong dates by headquarters.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Two years in a row now, where I've had to get an early shift on Friday, get off work, drive to the train station, jump on, pretty much immediately jump on the train, take it up to New York and meet you in the city. And I miss both Thursday and Friday and Friday's. Like, I've only basically been at Ecat, the actual event.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: You have to do the Friday party at the Garden.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: We tried this year.
[00:22:43] Speaker A: We have to do it. We have to do it. And specifically, you were arriving as we were going to karaoke with Josh Gates and his lovely girlfriend Candy and Nina and Nina's friend Kirsten and Trent and Zach. And Trent will be in the next podcast episode. He's lovely. We met him last year. He was just so. He was like, fangirling over the Explorers Club and just came out because he heard about it and was so excited to want to join. And since then has joined and kind of like, you know, I appreciate when.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: People commit like that.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: Yes. I like the follow through.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I give a lot of respect to the follow through. I'm a follow through kind of guy.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: Definitely. Definitely. And I guess I should say we leave the club and somehow Trent winds up with hat guys.
Bullwhip.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: You said that as if that sentence had any context. What, like I. And I nodded at you because I do have the context. But then you step back and like, what are you fucking talking about? That guy's bull.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: There's a guy.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: That character wasn't introduced.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: There's a guy that's a member of the club named Marcos.
[00:24:03] Speaker B: I have not got his name yet.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: That has a hat that's like Indiana Jones ish, but it's, like, more stylish and stylized. Yeah, it's a stylized, like, hat.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: It's a good look. I like it.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: He has a very distinctive look. And everyone calls him the guy with the hat. And he always has tequila.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: And that's how he's introduced himself to me.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: The guy with the hat with the tequila.
[00:24:21] Speaker B: To be fair, I've tried to get his name, and it's been given to me as the shtick. The guy with the hat, which I.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: And he has a bullet.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: Everybody knows him. It's working.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: Yes, it is working. And he has a bullwhip.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: And then Trent winds up in the middle of 70th street by Central park, outside, just with the bullwhip. Cracking it.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: And it's a full, real bullwhip.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: I mean, it's the full.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: Yes.
Yep. And then, sure enough, Kevin comes running out of the club.
[00:24:55] Speaker B: Oh, crap. Right now, Bow.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Crap. All ready to Go. We're like, oh, no, what have we done?
[00:25:04] Speaker B: The founding fathers would have been proud.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: I know.
[00:25:06] Speaker B: Founding fathers was a little sklars.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah, the founding fathers would also be proud.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: Yeah, they probably would have been.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: Freedom of the bullwhip.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Look, I think I can speak for Tommy J and George and just say that they would be completely on board with the bullwhip.
[00:25:23] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: I'm gonna take that liberty.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:25:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Then we went and got some tacos. Trent spilt salsa all over himself. Aggressively.
The whole thing just down his pants. I mean, really, just the worst thing that could have possibly happened. It was like, ready? Red, red brown.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's good.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: And then we met up with you and went to karaoke.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: That's where I met up with you.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: I can honestly say I did not think that my Friday night would end at karaoke in front of Josh Gates.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: And I just showed up at karaoke.
Alright, what's happening?
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Karaoke.
I sang popular.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: You did?
[00:26:10] Speaker A: I did. That's my song.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: I know.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Everybody really held their own with the singing too. I was really impressed. Like, Nina's a great singer and Kirsten's a great singer and I didn't know they do some fun, like, performing classes and stuff together. And then Trent really, really closed off the night with tequila.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: That one only has, like, one person.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: I know. He sat there, just. Tequila.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: And then you said, it's the Pee Wee Herman song.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: It is.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
Good stuff.
And then we went back to get ready for ecad. You slept all day.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: I needed it.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: I know you did. I slept for most of you.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: You're not giving me any breaks.
I already work every other weekend. Yeah, I know.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: And I slept all day too, to be quite honest.
I definitely.
[00:27:10] Speaker B: One of us has a day job.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: Wow. The first year, I was, like, really there at that special.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: We both have day jobs, by the way.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: Yeah, we do. We do. Thank you.
Damn straight.
[00:27:24] Speaker B: We're not quite rolling in the money here on the podcast exclusively yet.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: One day. Yeah, one day.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: One day.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: But yeah, the first year, I was all about that awardee symposium because, you know, the Irwins were there. They had a bodyguard, too. He was really nice, though.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: That makes sense.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: That does make sense.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: In case there's any stray Sting. Stingray.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: I was on their elevator with them privately with their bodyguard and was like, what's happening in my life right now? This is pretty great. That was my elevator experience.
You had the skeptics guide, I had the Irwin. I was there for that.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: You just texted me after the Fact.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Because I was like, awkwardly, I think I was texting you, and then I hear someone say, are you coming? Get on. Come on. And it was Bindi. Just like, pull me on the elevator because we had been talking before and I was like, oh, it's just me and Terry and Robert and Bindi and their bodyguards. This is great.
They were very cool. They were great people. They even said like, hi, we'll see you at the dinner when we went out. And it was good. It was really, really nice.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: I wasn't at that one.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: Well, that was my very first one.
I wasn't either.
Wow.
Do you want me to say no?
Mystery.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah, mystery.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: It's a mystery.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: It's a mystery. Yeah.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: And this year I just. Just slept through it because really, it's all about that Friday and Saturday party.
Although I will say explorers, they really have that constitution for like, drinking and partying hard and then.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: Oh, man, that is just not me anymore.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: No, no, me neither.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: I did plenty of that, you know, in my 20s and teens, and I just can't do that anymore. I mean, like, one. We. We were out late Saturday.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Oh my God, it was.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: And I was done for a week, you know, Like, I mean, I was just like, man, this is. I mean, don't get me wrong, great. Worth it. But like, I was like, this is.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: It's rough.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: This is at most a once a year.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Because, well, it's even more than that. They. They have a. They have this, the constitution for partying hard, aggressively, and. And drinking a lot and then getting in at like 4 or 5 and then being back at the club at 9 in the morning. I have no idea how they do it. I mean, they must just stay drunk or something. Like all ecad weekend, you'd have.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: You would still just be drunk.
[00:29:57] Speaker A: Like all ecad weekend, everyone's like, oh, yeah, we went in at four and we're back at the club at nine. And I'm like, how.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: I mean, you just. You actually wouldn't metabolize the alcohol in that span if you. Assuming you've been drinking that long when I've done it. Right. So, like, you are just still.
I mean, you are still on one, you know, one bender, right? It's just one bender. Just a weekend long bender.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: People come to an annual meeting after ECAD Sunday morning at like 9 every year.
I don't know how it happens. I've never made that meeting. Actually, you know what? The first year, Dakota was lagging and I, like, dragged her ass out of bed and we got there like 30 minutes late, but there's a nice breakfast.
[00:30:40] Speaker B: This is the first year.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah, the first year. But yeah, it's brutal. But the.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: To be fair, I don't need to party. Hard to not get up for breakfast. I hate mornings.
[00:30:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, Me too.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Like my. My internal clock. If I just had nothing going on, Right. And just was left to my own devices and had no. No deadlines, no things I need to be at, I would probably operate something along the lines of a 3 in the morning bedtime to a 1030, 11 natural wake up time. That would be my natural bio rhythm.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: That's kind of mine too, actually. Exactly that. And Saturday, the big day. The big day. ECAD Day.
So every year that I've been at ecad, it has been at the Glass House. Apparently in the past it has been at the Natural History Museum, which. That would just be very cool. Right?
[00:31:41] Speaker B: That's cool.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: And it's been at Ellis Isle.
[00:31:46] Speaker B: That's cool too.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: Yeah, they've had a lot of cool places.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: You can like, rent that space out.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, right?
But since I've been here, it's been at the Glass House, which is nice. I mean, it's a very, like, nice, pretty, shiny glass building, hence the name, where you can see the skyline of New York and the water. It's very pretty. And we know where stuff is, which makes it easier and better and.
Yeah, so we. We get there.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: That's cool. It's a cool space.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: We got there extra early because we wanted those spiders and still couldn't get the spiders.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Yeah. You had a whole plan.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: I know. And there were no spiders.
[00:32:23] Speaker B: Move.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: Well, if we're like, I guess to do the wish list of Ecad, you have to kind of move fast to get it done or you're gonna miss out. So you want to get there early to get to the bugs and weird food as they're bringing it out.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: The weird food bug stuff is great.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It's more the first time you see it, it's like jarring. And then like this year, it's like every time you see it, it's a little more like, okay, well, I've seen this. Yeah, I know. It becomes less alarming. And somebody ate the display spider. We should have just done it.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: I know. He should have been the asshole that did it, right?
[00:33:01] Speaker A: I know.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: We should have known that some other asshole's gonna do this.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Exactly. Let's be that asshole. Damn it. I have my eyes.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: I was ready to eat that spider.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: Oh, I know.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: I went in fully ready to eat that spider.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: I know.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: And then they didn't have them. They're like, there's just two on display. No, we're not making them.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: The chef.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: Budgetary constraints.
[00:33:19] Speaker A: He was very nice. He, like, held my hand all fancy pants, like, and was like, oh, I.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: Do like the fancy.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: All right. Now this is a hand sandwich.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Like, you know the lock on.
[00:33:27] Speaker A: I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: I do that in medicine.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: I really understand what you're going through.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: It's a good. There's no spiders this year.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: I'm sorry, but there's no cure for herpes.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
But they did have, you know, one thing that is gross that would probably have the same impact for me as the spider that I just would never, ever, ever eat.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: Just do that whole thing. Just, like, primarily a visual shtick, by the way.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: I know. It's fine.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: Gonna play great on the podcast.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: Sorry.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: No worries at all. The cockroaches, they have, like, Madagascar hissing cockroaches. And I'm gonna be honest, that would have the same.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: Ick.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: I can't believe this girl is eating a cockroach factor as the spider would. But it's just so gross to me. Like, it's so unsanitary. And I know that. I'm sure there's. But it just. It just does not resonate in my mind.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: Well, yeah. To me, cockroaches are gross in a dirty way.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:34:33] Speaker B: And the spiders are gross in kind.
[00:34:36] Speaker A: Of a badass way, a creepy way.
[00:34:38] Speaker B: But I feel power. Like, I am consuming this thing that people have nightmares of.
Whereas the cockroach is like. I mean.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's why you like the scorpions, too.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: I do. I like the power.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: The scorpion. I don't mind. You know, it's always a little alarming every year, but I don't mind.
[00:35:00] Speaker B: It doesn't taste like anything to me. It's just very crunchy. Yeah, it tastes like the lettuce that it's served on in whatever the little, like, sauce is.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't have enough lettuce on mine, and it definitely, like, kind of rolled out of the lettuce and had more of a taste.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Classic mistake.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Oh, it was very, like. It's like a metallicy peanut.
[00:35:20] Speaker B: I don't really get any taste out of it.
[00:35:22] Speaker A: Oh, there's definitely a taste.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: I believe that you have a feeling. I believe it. I just don't taste it.
[00:35:29] Speaker A: There's a lot of Like a variety of worms.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: Just a lot of like, you know, like, like pieces of skeleton carapace out of my teeth.
[00:35:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I've had exoskeletons stuck in my teeth.
It's pretty gross.
[00:35:44] Speaker B: Comes out the same way.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: Oh, no. I mean, we do get kind of sick after ecad. Maybe your body's like, you shouldn't be eating those scorpions.
I know.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: Well, I tried to eat this. I was ready for a tarantula. That was this year's goal. Yeah, I was gonna like leave one of the legs hanging out of my mouth.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: They were smaller this year though too. Even though this clay one was like smaller than the last one. So maybe there was an issue with getting some tarantul.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: But their big thing that they were pushing this year was the iguana.
I don't know how that's okay. I love the Explorers Club. I'm not saying in a bad way, but it just seems like the insects and all those, they're invasive species. So for me that writes it off in my brain like, well, this is an invasive species that we're taking.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: Insects are consumed as food in a lot of ways. They're actually quite nutritious. But an iguana, the iguana bothered me.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: It just, it looked like it bothered.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Me way more than any of the bug related things.
I didn't cry.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: It was like in the filet stance, like it was fully just, this is an iguana that's been cooked. And they flipped it over and started.
[00:36:59] Speaker B: Chop, chop, chop, chop.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: And I couldn't look away. But I started like crying because I'm. I don't know, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I'm like, that's. That's my dragon friend. Don't kill him.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: He did.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: And then there was that weird fish that was like ground up.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: It was crabs.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: Crabs.
[00:37:16] Speaker B: I'm not a seafood person, period. So making it weird. Seafood, certainly not making me want to have it anymore. I just can't do the seafood thing. I can't do. The smell of seafood really bothers me and the texture of a lot of it bothers me. I can't do slimy things or like any kind of like shellfishy type food.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: Right.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: It wouldn't even matter what it tastes like. I wouldn't be able to get over the texture of like shrimp or squid.
But yeah, I don't know. Seafood's not my thing. I don't eat any. I don't eat anything from the sea.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: They had a I don't know. Was it a blue crab? It was some kind of special crab.
[00:38:05] Speaker B: It was, like, smushed into juice.
Looked.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: It was, like, pureed into a fine juice. And I had it because I was like, why not?
Why not? It was in this little glass thing, all fancy. It was a liquid.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: It was fancy. They did fancify it.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Yes. It was like a fancy liquid. And I'm like, knowing that this is a liquid. It's not a texture thing for me anymore.
So I had it and it was just very. It was very salty. Like, very salty. That's all it really tasted like was salt, to be honest.
And then we got our portraits taken for the first time ever.
[00:38:41] Speaker B: How about that?
[00:38:42] Speaker A: Fancy pants portraits.
It was all nice and dramatic. We're gonna put it over our wall mantle.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Like, it looks like an old hunting portrait would be. Or like an old. Like, you know, I'm an adventurer. Here's my adventure stance.
[00:39:00] Speaker B: It looked like something Teddy Roosevelt would have had commissioned of himself and then put in his, like, presidential office. Right.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Like, even just the aesthetic is meant to look that way. Like the.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it was perfect.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: The lighting and the coloring of it.
Yeah. It was pointed out to me that I should have had a pipe.
[00:39:19] Speaker A: Yes. And a pipe would have gone.
[00:39:22] Speaker B: And I do have a pipe.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: That would have been so good.
Really, what he was doing is your hand in your pocket. Like, everything about it was perfect.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: It's almost like he was a professional.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: What?
And then there was a bunch of. Felix. Felix Kuntz.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Kuntz Koontz. Yep. We recommend him. Check him out.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: Yeah, he's New York based. I don't know. I'm not sure. I think so. I do think so.
[00:39:46] Speaker B: I think so.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: I think so. There were also a bunch of, like, really relevant people there that we had no idea until after the fact. Like, the direwolf guy, Ben Lamb was there. He had his portrait taken.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: Is it colossal?
What's the name of the company?
[00:40:03] Speaker A: Colossal.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: Colossal Sciences.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was there. And, of course, Richard Gere gave the keynote address, which was very cool.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Yeah, that was cool.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: It was a fun night. It's always good food and fun times. You know, the opener, the cocktail party is meant to be just overwhelmingly. Like, look at all these animals and shiny things and rovers and wild hors d'oeuvres and eat this spider on a stick and just this iguana and all these crazy, wonderful things. And then the night itself is kind of what you would expect. A nice Awards show to be.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: It's a very nice dinner.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Yes. It's chicken. So it's not anything scary, right?
[00:40:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, it has a smattering of speakers and Richard Gere was the keynote. And there's an ongoing silent auction which we can get into.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Somebody.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: Somebody broke the bank on that.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: You did.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: I did.
I didn't bid on a single thing.
And kind of during that time, there's a live auction at dinner too, which is for the high end, trip related experience.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: All of a sudden, you want to put up your hand. Oh, it's at 5,000. And then it goes from 5 to 25 within three seconds.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: 27,000. You're like, no, I don't want that number.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: Nope.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: I was there for five.
[00:41:29] Speaker A: I was there for five.
[00:41:29] Speaker B: I just wanted to get my hand up.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: I just wanted to play.
But the silent auction, I was really butthurt from last year because I wanted to win a crystal dagger. And I would have won it, except I didn't get my information in. In time. So I ruined it for myself. And I wasn't gonna make that mistake this year.
So I bid on several things thinking I wouldn't get them. And then I got all of them.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Great, great.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: Yay. But they are great. There was a sake set that was just beautiful. That was like a. That just. I mean, it was like nothing. And it's very pretty, and that was nice. And then we got Autumn, our daughter, the most adorable little jean jacket with the Explorers Club logo on it. And it has a matching hat. Little toddler outfit.
[00:42:14] Speaker B: That one we were not the only bidders on. That one. Was not a steal.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: Not a steal. And then I won a penis gourd.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: That one was worth it.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. You might be asking yourself what a penis gourd is. And it actually has a real name. Let me see if I can tell you.
One second.
So it's called a koteca koteka. Yeah, I did know that later.
Which is a penis gourd. It's a penis sheath traditionally worn by native male inhabitants of Papua New Guinea.
So it's like this. It's like this.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: I'm collecting my thoughts.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: It's a gourd. And it's, like carved and emptied and shaped, and it's very long, and it just like, you kind of stick your penis in it.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: Whose penis is that sized for? Well, I mean, other than me, of course.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: Well, I think it's supposed to, like, cover it and then, like, look like.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Impressive and look like there's an extra 18 inches at the tail end of it. Yeah, some of us did that. Some of us.
[00:43:25] Speaker A: I wonder if there's some pictures of it. Yeah.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Mallory.
[00:43:29] Speaker A: Michael.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Mallory.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: Michael.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: Don't click the images.
Don't do this at work, at least.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: Oh, my God. See?
[00:43:41] Speaker B: Googling penis gourd, Papua New Guinea. And hitting the image tab is not safe for work.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: Some of them are curved, but ours is straight.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: Is the gourd. Is the gourd curved or is the dick curved? Do they make them? Are they, like, customized?
You know what it's called? The curved penises. Like, if they're too curved. Peyronie's disease.
[00:44:04] Speaker A: Oh, you know, I did know that. You told me.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Yeah, Curved penis disease. Yeah, it's. It's. Oh, no, no. Now you're gonna get. Now you're gonna get a little something. The corpus cavernosa are the chambers that fill up with blood to give you an erection. To give a guy an erection. And they can get dystrophic areas of calcification. And they kink it. Oh, no, it can't bend around. Like, the calcium is a fixed point.
[00:44:30] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:44:31] Speaker B: So when it, like, expands, it bends at the points. So you can get some, like, pretty severely kinked shanky pinkers. Oh, yeah, Johnson. You can get some kink. You can get some kinked Johnson.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: When I was a resident, we were for a brief time doing penile ultrasound studies, which I published a paper on and presented at a major international conference. And the reason I presented it was because I wanted to be the guy with the penis presentation.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: Right, Right.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: I had no interest in what the study showed, but knowing that I got to be the penis guy was worth its weight in gold, right?
[00:45:12] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: Anyways, the penis ultrasound, you would, like, ultrasound them and get blood flow measurements with the ultrasound while they're flaccid. And then you would inject these poor bastards with a medicine that would make them erect.
[00:45:28] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:45:29] Speaker B: And it was an intra penile injection. You would just jam the needle right into the dick.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: And then you would get all the measurements again. And I was like, I don't know how bad off I'd have to be before I agreed to that. Right? Like, sure, jam that needle right into.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: My dick and manhandle my penis, too. The whole thing, the whole thing seems awful. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
[00:45:59] Speaker B: But also, I put that on my resume for jogged afterwards. Of course, the only thing that was mentioned on any of my interviews, everything on my resume, if they mentioned anything, most people didn't even look at it. But if anything from that resume came up, it was. Tell me about this penis ultrasound project.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: Oh, my God. See, you get it.
[00:46:21] Speaker B: You get it, right?
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Okay, well, I think my penis gourd made me the hit of the night.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: Yours is not meant for someone with peyote knee disease.
[00:46:30] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: That thing is.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Straight. Yep. Swing.
It was. It was definitely a great talking point.
Our friend Candy thought that was a penis.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: You had no qualms about carrying that thing very clearly in front of you. The whole talking stick. Yeah. You held it up. You led us through a room with it, like, as. Like a. As a. Like a collectee.
[00:46:57] Speaker A: Oh, no.
But you know what? Lives rent free in my head forever was the moment at the end of the night when everyone was a little far gone where Nina rubbed it on Josh's face.
Lives rent free in my head.
Why would you give her that?
Oh, man. So he.
[00:47:20] Speaker B: This is why.
For this reason, right now, rent free.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: In my head forever.
So we won the peniscourt. We got to listen to Richard Gere speak. That was pretty cool.
And then we did the after party and the after after party and all the fun party.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: And the host was Joe Magianella.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: Right.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: Yes, Yes.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: I know from True Blood, even though I never really watched.
[00:47:49] Speaker A: I didn't know him from any.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: He was the vampire. He's the.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: The werewolf.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: The werewolf, yeah.
[00:47:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know that. And I've never seen Deal or no Deal island, but your mom's a huge.
[00:47:58] Speaker B: Immediately, she was so jealous.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: I know she loves that show.
[00:48:01] Speaker B: She was so jealous.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: But I did know his girlfriend.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: She was pretty jealous of Richard.
[00:48:05] Speaker A: Yeah, she was. She sent me a shirtless photo of him the night before and goes, this is my kind of host from 40 years ago. I know.
So funny. The reactions from, like, your mom, my mom, everyone's moms were really the Richard gay.
[00:48:22] Speaker B: It's that generous?
[00:48:23] Speaker A: It is.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: I mean, they were. They're contemporary, right?
[00:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. They were all about it. That's really, really funny. And then we wound up.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: You knew. You knew.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: I knew his girlfriend.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: Joe Maginella.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't know she was there or his girlfriend. And then the photographer posted a photo of them, and I was like, I know her from what? From when I was in Hollywood, from my modeling days.
[00:48:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:48] Speaker A: Yeah. She's very nice.
[00:48:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:50] Speaker A: I mean, I immediately. I wasn't even following her because it was like. I think the last time I even really knew her was, like, almost pre instagram Right. So I. I followed her and she immediately followed me back and was like, I had no idea you were there. I didn't know you were there. Small world. Small world, Small world.
But then we wound up. Then we wound up in another bar after. The thing about. The thing about ecad is it never stops. People just wind up all over in weird places. And last year, Mark Miller just got on a bus. Do you remember that? It was some party bus. He didn't even know.
[00:49:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: And we lost him forever because he went on some party bus.
[00:49:31] Speaker B: Well. Cause there's the dinner, there's the cocktail party, then there's the dinner, Then there's an after party. An after party. And then there's the secret after party.
And we were supposed to meet him at the secret after party, and he was. He just disappeared.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: And when we talked on their thing, I just ended up on some. Some party bus. And I don't know where I went. Like, I don't know what happened.
So it was a great party. No idea where I was or what was happening.
[00:50:01] Speaker A: So that's kind of what happens. And the first year, I peaced out right after the after party. And Dakota's like, we're going to so and so here. You gonna come? And I was like, no, I'm gonna go to sleep because I'm lame. Womp, womp. This year, I don't know. I was having so much fun. It was so much fun that I kind of just lost track of time and my phone died. So I had no idea what time it was, which helped because then I'm not worried about what time it is or when do we have to get back. It just. Everything went out the window.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: It was probably a hint when the sun was coming.
[00:50:31] Speaker A: I know. And we. We all start walking afterwards. You know, our posse, we got. We got Josh Gates and Candy and Nina and Josh's bff Yawn. And Trent and Zach.
[00:50:46] Speaker B: It was a fun.
[00:50:48] Speaker A: And we're just wandering. Somebody knows where we're going to get to the bar.
[00:50:53] Speaker B: Supposedly.
[00:50:53] Speaker A: Supposedly. And the weird thing is, I feel like personally, we're just wandering. But then we wind up where everybody else from the club went. That's what happened at Tacos the first night. And that's what happened this night. Like, everyone we knew was at the next bar. Like, everyone just knew where to go.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: Well, I think I got in there, I was like, is this just another after party?
[00:51:10] Speaker A: Yeah, this is just our people.
[00:51:11] Speaker B: This is a planned thing.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: I'm like, but this is the same Room.
We just left that party and now we're here.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And so we like chilling, hanging out in. Hanging out in another bar afterwards. And that's when the nuggets happened.
[00:51:27] Speaker B: Nuggets.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: So Nina was very aggressive about we need to get nuggets. And then that sounded like a great idea. So then I was really also aggressive about the nuggets.
[00:51:41] Speaker B: These are McDonald's chicken nuggets.
[00:51:43] Speaker A: No, I don't even like McDonald's chicken nuggets, to be honest.
And then there's a point where we were screaming at everybody about the nuggets. We gotta get the nuggets. We gotta get the nuggets.
[00:51:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, you were.
[00:51:55] Speaker A: Oh, no.
Really wanted those nuggets.
And then there was a point where Josh was like, what is it with you and nuggets?
I don't even like McDonald's Nuggets, though.
[00:52:06] Speaker B: Oh, really? I like the nuggets.
[00:52:07] Speaker A: I don't. I like. I used to like Burger King nuggets. I didn't like McDonald's nuggets. I know.
I was. When I was little.
[00:52:15] Speaker B: What?
[00:52:16] Speaker A: I know.
[00:52:17] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: I never liked McDonald's nuggets.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: And then we're gonna have a serious.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: Do you remember when someone found that that might.
[00:52:24] Speaker B: You liked Burger King?
[00:52:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:28] Speaker B: Not in this house.
[00:52:31] Speaker A: But I was transparent about the Burger King nuggets.
But do you remember?
[00:52:37] Speaker B: This should have been disclosed to me before we got married.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: But do you remember when someone found the chicken head? I never unsaw that.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: Was that real, though?
[00:52:44] Speaker A: I don't know. But I never unsaw.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: I know what you're talking about. And it also bothered me, but it very much seems like the kind of.
[00:52:53] Speaker A: Thing that was fake, maybe, But I couldn't unsee it after I heard it.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? For years, me and my friend's plan, our get rich quick scheme, was to start dropping stuff in the nugget maker and then making sure we were the people that got the order and then suing McDonald's for it.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: So you were Keenan and Kale. I put the screw in the tuna.
[00:53:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Well, they tasted great at five in the morning.
[00:53:23] Speaker B: What about the one with the head in it, though?
[00:53:25] Speaker A: Not that.
[00:53:25] Speaker B: No.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: No. So we wind up. We wind up Josh peaced out with candy and then it was me.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: And he didn't think we were gonna make it to the nuggets.
[00:53:34] Speaker A: He didn't think we were gonna make it to nuggets. We did. Josh, if you're listening, we made it to the nuggets.
[00:53:40] Speaker B: He was wrong that I wasn't gonna make to the nuggets, but he was right that they were, they were a bad idea.
[00:53:47] Speaker A: He was not about the nuggets.
Trent and Zach stayed behind and me and you and Nina and Kirsten and Paul, who also I guess joined our group at some point, who was also a planetary scientist.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: I think it was at the second bar, like the after after after bar.
[00:54:09] Speaker A: He's also a planetary scientist and he jumped on board and we all made it back to the Barclay where we're staying, but we stopped for nuggets on the way and we got our nuggets and then there's just this sad group of explorers that have been up all night long eating McDonald's chicken nuggets and sharing drinks. Because there was definitely only three drinks in the lobby of the Intercontinental Barclay, which is a very fancy hotel. So I'm sure they were thrilled that was happening. Although we did look nice in our nice little outfit.
[00:54:46] Speaker B: The outfits look nice. We looked at that point.
[00:54:50] Speaker A: It was at that moment where my phone was still dead.
[00:54:53] Speaker B: I've seen pictures of me at that point.
[00:54:55] Speaker A: Oh yeah, there was a.
My phone was still dead, but someone was like, oh, it's five in the morning. And then at that moment I was like, I'm gonna.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: The sun was coming up.
[00:55:04] Speaker A: Yes. And I said, you know what? Thank God we're in the lobby. I'm gonna ask for a late checkout. And that was a very good thing to do. So I got my late checkout.
[00:55:13] Speaker B: As you may see, I will not be making the normal checkout.
[00:55:19] Speaker A: As you can see, we're in your lobby eating nuggets. Please let my checkout be an hour later.
Yeah, it was a great night. It was the only night in a long, long, long, long, long time that I can remember that I was up all night like that I stabbed.
[00:55:38] Speaker B: Let me. Because I work. I work a lot.
[00:55:39] Speaker A: You work nights?
[00:55:40] Speaker B: I have a weird schedule and I like nights.
[00:55:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: So yeah.
[00:55:45] Speaker A: Doing something, I guess.
[00:55:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:55:47] Speaker A: Like. Like out. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I mean there's. Sometimes we stay up, we're like, oh my God, it's like four in the morning. It's five in the morning.
[00:55:53] Speaker B: Watching movies and shit.
[00:55:54] Speaker A: Yeah, but. But this is like out and about.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: Crazy partying.
[00:55:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
Oh my God. We did that in unison.
[00:56:01] Speaker B: Terrible.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: Oh, it's painful.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: Sorry.
[00:56:03] Speaker A: Oh no. On that note, do you have anything else you want to add about Ecad Michael?
[00:56:08] Speaker B: No, I think we hit all the good stuff. I mean, stay tuned. We're going to have several Explorers Club people on in some upcoming episodes that will have further stories about ECAD and what they're doing and then about the club more in general.
[00:56:24] Speaker A: Yes, I want to do a whole.
[00:56:25] Speaker B: Series of Explorer Club science exploration related topics coming up.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: Good stuff.
[00:56:33] Speaker B: So stay tuned.
[00:56:34] Speaker A: Yay. Thank you guys for listening today. I'm your host, Mallory.
[00:56:39] Speaker B: And I'm your host, Michael.
[00:56:40] Speaker A: And until next time, everybody stay weird.
