Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Hello, hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to Mallory's Weird World Adventures, the podcast. I'm your host, Mallory.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: And I'm your host, Michael.
[00:00:14] Speaker A: And we're here to show you just how weird this world of ours really is. Before we start talking about our weird world content, first I'd like to say if you happen, not if you have not watched Weird World Adventures yet on Amazon prime, what are you waiting for? Make sure you go to Amazon prime and search Weird World Adventures. And season two will be out in the fall of 2025. And follow all things on our blog at MallorySadventures.com Alrighty, guys, I have to preface this right now with the fact that one, we are driving back from the Great Smoky Mountains. So I apologize if the quality is not up to what it has been in the past. We are in the car in motion and sometimes that messes things up. And two, we are exhausted. Who knows how this is going to go because I am unwell.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: The sound quality and content quality might take a dip here.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Womp, womp, womp. We just finished completing 40 hikes for our hikes of the Great Smoky Mountains that will be coming out for Falcon guide.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Before we did 20, we did it in two batches.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Two batches, yes. That's a good practice there. We did it in two batches and we did a long over five mile hike yesterday.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: That's a good one.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: It was a good one. And then today just many, many shorter hikes. But I, I don't think I've got much sleep this week. And we were just, you know, on the move constantly. So I am, I am. I don't know about you, I'm pretty tired.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:01:56] Speaker A: So what was your favorite hike, Michael? Amongst all the ones we did in.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: The Great Smith this trip were like, overall, let's do this trip first. Well, yeah, the five mile hike has a wrecked train, like a wrecked steam engine on top of the pond. So that was the winner.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Oh, definitely, definitely.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: It was also a really pretty challenging hike.
[00:02:19] Speaker A: It was.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Which I liked.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: It was a lot of it was going up to get in and then going down to get out, which is something I appreciate in a hike.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: It was a good amount of steady, like incline.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: And yeah, you know, it's like, it's like five and a half miles, something like that.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Right.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: It had a nice payoff.
The steam engine is a good payoff.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: Yeah. It's crashed into a creek and it's, it's pretty wild.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: I like there was some small water crossings that weren't you know they weren't bridged. You had a, you know, paddle across, find some stones, cross a log.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: The first time we got to it, it's like, oh, this is so cool. This is so cute. We're crossing the creek. Okay. We gotta kind of like jump across the rocks here. And then the seventh one.
[00:03:10] Speaker B: The seventh one, you just misstep, and Mallory's ankle deep in mud.
[00:03:15] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It was just.
There were parts where you were just gonna get your feet wet no matter what you did. And if I had. That's a good thing of writing this hiking book. Right. Because if I had a hiking book to reference, and I knew that I would have either worn water shoes, like the kind that have a nice hard bottom, or gumboots.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: Was there a hike we did that didn't have the little bridges over it?
[00:03:39] Speaker A: I think it was just so deep into the mountains. On the other side, it was a.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: Pretty obscure one, at least on small group of people the entire day.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: Yes. So there's, like, the really touristy area, parts of the Great Smokies, and then the very obscure. Not touristy parts.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: Not the obscure part.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Me too.
This is definitely in the obscure side. And specifically, it was part of, so, Grapevine Ridge. That trail starts from Roaring Fork, so it starts from the very busy area. That's touristy. So anybody, like, just doing the tourist thing would start there. But that area was closed. So the other end of the hike is far, far away. I mean, it's 14 miles away.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Right. We'll have to talk about those difficult car hikes.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh.
[00:04:29] Speaker B: I'll tell you what my least favorite was.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah, car hike.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Car hike.
That's even a thing? It's just called driving.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: But, yeah.
The second entrance off Greenbrier for the Graveyard Ridge is closer to the steam engine. So if you want to see the wrecked steam engine, that's the area to go from. And it was very. Just peaceful and quiet and separated. So it's very nice.
[00:04:59] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: And, you know, I have these really nice gumboots I ordered from Amazon years ago.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: I didn't bring them.
[00:05:07] Speaker A: I didn't bring them, but I worked with penguins, and it's those, like, very thick rubber boots made for kind of field research or fishing. Like, you see them worry when they're fishing. They go, like, all the way up to your knees, and they're actually unbelievably comfortable. I can do a whole day of hiking in them, no issues. They're mildly heavy, but, I mean, they're so comfortable and so, like, easy to walk in that. I preferred them pretty much. Anytime I've ever work with penguins, I just use those. I don't even wear like normal shoes. I'll wear those. And you know, we're walking like eight, nine miles a day.
Never had a problem. I don't get blisters, so I should have next time. If I knew, I would have just walked right through the water in those.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Instead you brought your pink Adidas, which are now brown.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: I know they're all fatty boots, like.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Fancy boots, not hiking boots.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: Well, the fancy boots are for weird worlds. I guess we should talk about the Titanic museum too. Okay, well, first let's talk about the car, since you brought that up.
So apparently I actually don't know how I feel about this in the Smokies, I guess because they have. First of all, it's the most visited national park in the US and by a lot. It's very busy and there's a lot of people that go there that are not hikers but want to experience the park. So I guess the way they made that accessible for everyone is to make motor trails. So it's like a car trail where you can drive through this area that's supposed to be very pretty, you know, in your car, supposedly 20 miles an hour.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: I wish. It would have been really great if it was.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: It's true. And so in theory, first of all, I mean, I guess it's a good idea to be accessible for everyone and to bring everyone in, but it's also just in a world where we're focusing on sustainability, it's a very not eco friendly or sustainable thing to do at this point.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I understand why it exists. You know, some people can experience some of the quote unquote hiking or the scenery of the mountains that maybe couldn't do it otherwise. Yes, that being said, it does. There is something, I don't know, maybe this is an overkill, but almost a little perverse of like a, you know, like a trail of cars slowly idling along like this like pristine, beautiful setting. Just, you know, gas guzzling. It's also like there's a lot of gas guzzling truck type vehicle, you know, big suv, which I guess makes sense out in the mountains or whatever. But there's just something f about seeing a line of like F150s just pumping away gasoline, moving one mile an hour in a line down a road to look at these pristine fields in the mountains.
It's an odd.
An odd contrast.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: And we started. So I've heard a lot about Caid scope because it's one of the big ghost legends of the snowpiece. I didn't realize that it's a motor trail.
And we get on it, and at first it was absolutely fine. We're going about 20, which is the speed limit for it. All right, this is nice. We're moving slow enough to take in. It's beautiful. Like, it's just. It's this pristinely green field and, like, rolling mountains. You're like, oh, this is so horses. Like, this is so pretty and nice.
And. And it was fine. And we were going 20, and then we pulled off to check out an.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: Old cabin, which was John Oliver's cabin.
[00:09:10] Speaker A: John Oliver.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: Not that John Oliver.
[00:09:13] Speaker A: This is 1888. John Oliver. 1818.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Did we also have our own entertaining show on HBO?
[00:09:19] Speaker A: He did not, no.
And, you know, that was a nice. It was a very nice cabin. We were very glad we did it because we got some great pictures. And then we regretted it immediately. We got back in the car because.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Well, we were not around any car. We happened to not really be around any cars when we did that first mile.
[00:09:38] Speaker A: This is great.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: This is beautiful. Let's pull over this cabin. And then when we got back on motor trail, we joined a lot, you know, parade of cars.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: The reason that there being a line of cars, though, is because somebody up front is being a jerk. Right? I mean, that's what it is, right? Somebody up front is stopping and going really slow. That's the only reason you're gonna have that horrible line. Also.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Yes, this had ample pullovers. There was probably a pullover. So see, you know the splat.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: You want a quarter mile?
[00:10:09] Speaker B: Oh, not. I mean, even more than that. Yeah. I mean, everybody, like. Yeah. I'd be surprised if they weren't more frequent than every quarter mile. But there were ample pull ups.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: And there were also tons of parking lots, too.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: We did full parking lots. And also there was a sign every, I don't know, 10th of a mile being like, don't stop in the road.
[00:10:29] Speaker A: Just use the pull.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: Use one of the many pullovers. Stop being an asshole.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: It said, be our idol. Don't idle. And then there was another one that was like, pull over. Don't. It was very clear.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: They were. Don't be assholes.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: Every 10, you know, every 10th of a mile.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: And we got stuck behind.
At first it was like, okay, there's. There's several cars where people are just, like, hanging out of the skylight, which is fine. They want to enjoy it. Right? But right away, when you have like dad driving and like mom has her head out the, you know, the skylight. They're just going to drive slower than 20, right. So it was like we were already kind of starting to go slow, like, okay. And then there was this one car that just kept stopping for no reason. I mean, they would just like stop taking these pictures. Stop here.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: 20 cars ahead of us too. You can see up front. So you can see the one car.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: And then there's like dozens of cars behind us. Like all of a sudden it's just traffic because this one jerk won't pull over. As all the signs and you know, everything shows.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: The moment that was most surreal to me is that car was stopped in the. It's one, it's one route to loose. You can only go or you can't pass anybody. It's just you're in line and you're fully stopped in the road. Like in the one lane road blocking. I don't know. There had to be at least 30 cars piled up here and they're at a parking lot that has room to park.
You literally could have just pull off.
[00:12:07] Speaker A: They stopped in the parking lot.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: Didn'T.
[00:12:11] Speaker A: Pull into a space.
[00:12:13] Speaker B: Like, wow, I, I don't understand.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: I mean, and then they stopped to talk to someone. There was somebody taking pictures and they stopped to just have a conversation while driving.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: And there's one of the pedestrians, 30 cars waiting behind them while they're stopped.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Yay.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Arguably, but not in a space, just in the road.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: It became immediately stressful because it's like, this is just traffic.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: Yeah. It just felt like you were in traffic.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: This isn't fun anymore. And it's one thing we learned. It's one thing to like coast through a scenic Route at 20 miles an hour, enjoying the view versus going 8 miles an hour or slower.
Well, the view also was the same the entire time.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Well, unless you're the guy in front, the view is the next guy's bumper. I didn't fall out of it. So it ruins the view because it's just 30 cars on the line as your view.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: So we very quickly learned that car hikes, car hikes are not for us. No. We have too much road rage. And you know, I'm all for taking a nice little casual drive, but don't be a jerk. I mean, really, like, I can't express enough how much people don't pay attention to anybody but themselves.
And that's what's so frustrating about it.
It's the complete and total, like not caring about anybody else whatsoever. Having Any form of self awareness. That kills me.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: There were hikes off that motor trail. At least pull off an apartment lot and go on a hike. Hike.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: Which we did at one point because we couldn't handle it anymore.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: It was also on our list of hikes. So we had to do it. Fun.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: It was good timing. You were ready to. You were ready to stroke up the right.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: I almost yelled at the person when it was like when we were stopped and they weren't moving for minutes.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: I know.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: Or the Hank, like the dude.
It's just so rude.
It's so rude.
And again, when we were going 15, 20, it was absolutely fine. There was no problems. It was nice, nice view, no issues.
There's no reason to stop in the middle of the road every few feet and hold up everybody to take pictures. And also to go when you are going eight miles an hour.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean there was just a lot of pullovers. Yes, please use any menu.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: That's the other thing. Right. I mean the pullovers are there for a reason. If you want to take your time and go extra slow, let everybody else pass you. Like, you have to be the people paying attention. That was one of the things that.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: Well, they're there for pictures, all the pictures you want.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: But also to let people ask you if you're going to go start. I mean, when I was in Germany, something that I realized very quickly about the autobahn, which was incredible, is that people, not they don't just know how to drive mindfully, but they actually, they pay attention to the other drivers that help them. So if you're, you know, they only use the far left lane to pass. Unless you're just flying down the autobahn and there's no speed limit. And if they see someone behind them coming, it's just intuitive to.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Why do you pull over?
[00:15:50] Speaker A: I need to go to the next lane over to run that pass. Like, it is just, I mean, because if you, if you go over in front of someone going that much faster than you, you're going to get killed. Right. So everyone just knows, okay, I need to like only use the left lane if I'm passing or if I want to go fast. And oh, so well, death is a.
[00:16:07] Speaker B: Good incentive to learn that.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: But I mean, every single person like was aware of other drivers, which we're not. Like, that's part of it too. It's like having the awareness that other people are on the road. It just kills me.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Highly recommend car hikes.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: Definitely car hikes. Murder trails all the way.
I mean, it's also just like, the Smokies are one of the places you go that have just the worst drivers in the world. I mean, it's off.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: Driving in Gatlinburg, the city was atrocious.
Truly atrocious.
Yeah. The first trip we did there, we watched someone almost die because we almost died.
[00:16:58] Speaker A: Yeah, we did.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Just from a. You know, just carved oceans, a crosswalk. Just almost. Almost smashed that bird. Right?
[00:17:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
Really, it was. I mean, the driving itself is just insane. And the. The hikes we did were like. We saw. We found this time. Like, the second thing is there's lots of great myths, legends, and cool places in the Smokies that make it worth it.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't let the car hike deter you. The over experience was great.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: Regular hikes highly recommend. Car hiking, not for me.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: Car hiking less great.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: We did a hike that actually led to an old schoolhouse, like 1800 schoolhouse, which was very tall. It was very cool. We brought our daughter and she's like, the Academy. The Academy. And then she wanted to just call the academy. So she just wanted to stay and hang out in the Academy all day.
I know. Look at that.
It was very cool to get to see, like, an old school house.
And I always love all the weird. Old graveyards are always fun.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: Or you do love your grave.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: I do. I wish I remember how many. There were hundreds of graveyards, if not more than hundreds, just hidden in the Great Smokies. Because, I mean, a lot of them are just people were buried in their yard and then they no longer had that yard anymore, you know?
[00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah, Well, I mean, like their graveyard, they're like five graves. Like a family plot. Yes.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: But there are hundreds of them, I'm sure. I don't doubt it.
Which is fun. Easy. Sometimes you just stumble on, oh, there's an old graveyard right here. And it's very common.
[00:18:47] Speaker B: Or sometimes you pull up your Google maps and specifically try to find them all. Like Mellor.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: I know. It's true. They're so cool. I don't know. There's something about the old, old headstones. I like finding ones that are freakishly old.
What's the oldest one I can find here?
[00:19:05] Speaker B: It's very exciting.
Which was the oldest one?
[00:19:09] Speaker A: Cougar.
I have to digress a little bit, because we were also filming an episode of Weird World when we were in Gatlinburg. Pigeonforge.
And we had this really cool interview this time. Every interview we did was we had a lot of amazing things.
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah, they were all really good.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: But we didn't the first time we did, yes, every single one was interesting. But this, this time in particular, we finally got to do the Titanic museum.
It was awesome.
Mike was thinking it was going to be super lame and gimmicky, but it actually had a lot of cool artifacts from the Titanic.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: Yeah. It was nowhere near as gimmicky as I thought it was going to be.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: There's a lot of information.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: The inside was a normal museum.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And what just is so awe inspiring to me about a lot of the Titanic information is how unbelievably researched that 1997 movie was. But actually, I mean, there are like little nods and facts and things that our tour guide would, you know, she would tell us. Oh, I remember that from the movie. Like James Cameron had researched it so well that there are so many little hidden nods to actual things that happened in Titanic.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: And I just find that. That fascinating. And it was, it was interesting to get to see, I guess, their faces. That inspired some of, some of that.
[00:20:51] Speaker B: You know, the characters.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: Characters. Because it is one of the greatest movies of all time.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: I agree to disagree.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Like Mr. Andrews, I mean, a real guy. Right. And I like that, you know, they try to memorialize the people that try to do good for the world with Titanic that like, you know, shouldn't get, like the ship designer shouldn't get a bad rep the. Because of the lifeboats. Because he aggressively tried to get all the lifeboats. Yeah, he got overruled and got overruled and, you know, so it's nice that they tell his story and kind of, you know, he did try. He tried to give more than enough lifeboats. They said no, how about this many?
[00:21:34] Speaker B: He also said he went down with the ship actively throwing things overboard to try to give people things to float.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Pretty decent.
[00:21:44] Speaker A: If you remember the movie, he was the guy that was like staring at the clock at the end when they ran by him and he said, please go save yourself, and was actively trying.
He gave up his life like, well, I'm not going to get on a lifeboat when I know there's not enough.
Yeah, it was very interesting. And then of course, I don't know why this fascinated me so much, but they had, the, the water was 28 degrees and they had 28 degree water. So you could, you know, put your hand in there. Like, this is what it would feel like if you stay on the Titanic.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: It didn't feel great.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: It really didn't. It was, it was cold and I kept my hand in there a little too long the first time around.
And then when I took it out, I'm like, oh, this is kind of, kind of stings. And then for a while afterwards, while we're doing the interview, my hand just kind of numb and I'm like.
And our guide had mentioned, yeah, we had a doctor come through that said that people would realistically only live like 15 minutes in it. What do you think, Doctor?
[00:22:51] Speaker B: What do I think?
[00:22:52] Speaker A: What do you think? Doctor?
[00:22:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, not long. Yeah, 15 minutes. I mean, that's maybe on a little short end.
Yeah, not long, but yeah, under an hour. Right.
[00:23:08] Speaker A: And they had the bridge that had the constellations in the sky put in exactly as they would have been when the Titanic hit the iceberg, which is interesting.
And of course they have the recreation of the grand staircase. Of course, the first class staircase.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: Of course.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: I mean, it's that iconic staircase. That's how people know it.
That's where when Rose dies, she then goes back down into the Titanic and gets to be a Jack Rover. And she walks down that staircase after.
[00:23:41] Speaker B: Living her full life of a husband and kids and grandkids, she dies and goes back to the guy she banged for two nights on the Complete Stranger she had not even a one night stand with. Right. They just did it in a car thing and then they sunk.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: They fell in love though, over a couple days.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: Now I know is the poor bastard she married for 40 years.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: I will say that always. It always bothered me that yes, she, she married someone, had kids, had grandkids. Her granddaughter's like a grown woman in the movie.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: And she even talks about your grandfather, this. And then when she dies, she just goes back to the guy she had an affair with for a few days.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: But not before also throwing the goddamn diamond overboard instead of doing any number of things with it, like donating it to a museum for people to see. Just everything about it is just nonsense.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: There was a deleted scene. I think there was an alternative ending, the alternate ending.
I respected this ending, which, it's the one where she didn't throw it in the water and she gave it to the guy. Like, why, why would this guy spent his life to find this, Right? Why wouldn't she just give it to him? And so in like one of the.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Alternate endings, you have to just.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Right.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: I don't know, you could do something with it.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: Well, in the alternate ending, she gave it to the guy and he asked her, like, why didn't you ever like pawn it off or sell it to like, you know, just to set up your life. Right. And her reasoning Was that she didn't ever want to like. She didn't want Cal to be the reason that she, like, supported, like, she didn't want him to support her. So it was like, I wanted to get by on my own. I didn't want to rely on, like.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: But Cal doesn't answer why you couldn't, like, give it to a museum at the end.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Yeah, she should have given it to the guy. Throwing it. Throwing it into the ocean for Jack is one of the dumbest things. It also doesn't make me so mad.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: It's not a thing that Jack gave him. It's a thing that the other guy, the schmuck, gave.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: So who's it going to? I just. None of it makes any sense to me.
[00:25:51] Speaker A: And the infuriated. Honestly, there goes $500 million.
I forgive Rose for a lot with throwing the heart of the ocean into the ocean at the end. It's not one of them. You're like this. This is. Just give it to the guy. Right. I don't know what to tell you.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Well, I'll just say it. Rose is the man of. Okay, I'll just say the unpopular. The unpopular opinion there.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, she did start the movie trying to kill herself.
[00:26:30] Speaker B: Yoda Labadgy, you know, he's a little unwell. She's just the villain of the whole thing. I'm not saying Cal didn't deserve to get cucked.
They can both be villains. He does deserve it. But also, it's not like she did anything good with the rest of it either.
Yeah, she dies and the only thing she wants to do is go back to the street rat that she banged.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: From, Ignore the whole family and, oh.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: Not gonna donate the diamond to anything useful or do anything with it. Just gonna off the ship.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: I guess. The thing is that she was only happy when she was with him on the Titanic. Which is sad because you have a family and your granddaughter. That's a really depressing movie then.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: Right?
I survived the Titanic and the next 80 years of my life are miserable.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: And then I'm gonna go back aboard the ship and die.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: It's a bad.
It's a bad life. That's a life not well lived.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: Should have given that. That seat on the lifeboat to somebody else.
[00:27:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Jack should have lived. Yeah.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: Should have flip flopped that goddamn panel.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: Speaking of panel, I know they had. They had a whole room dedicated to the movie props and they had the door panel there that they were floating on at the end. And they were very particular about this Is not the door. If anyone calls it a door. It's not a door. It's a panel from above, like the door frame.
And they had that panel.
And all I wanted to do was recreate that scene. I'm not gonna lie.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: Well, if we ever go down in a ship and we're out in the freezing water, we're trying more than once.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:28:28] Speaker B: Before, I'm just like, oh, I'm just gonna die now.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Please go live another life with another family and have grandkids, but remember to come back here before you die.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: They did do that on Mythbusters.
Like, you could have used some thought. And I know it's a traumatic situation. You're not thinking, but if they had put their brains into it and put the life vest underneath the car, I'm.
[00:28:55] Speaker B: Not saying that it would have worked or that they should have thought of that scenario, but you got to try more than once. Right. Before you're just like, well, that guy's just dead. Right.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: Our guy did tell us that James Cameron had said, if I could go back and redo it, I would have made that door panel a lot smaller. Smaller so people would stop complaining about it.
He had to die.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:23] Speaker B: All I'm saying is we're trying more than once and.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: All right, all right.
[00:29:27] Speaker B: I'm not saying I'm, like, taking the spot on the board panel, but I'm not saying I'm not.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: It was a very. It was a very fascinating, very cool experience to get to go through all that. The fact that I got to go up the grand staircase to the Titanic was really, really cool.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: So glad.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: So glad for you.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: So happy for you.
[00:29:52] Speaker A: And, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. She started telling some of the stories for some of the guests on board, and it was. I mean, some of them, I was, like, getting a little teary, and I'm like, okay, what is happening to you? Why am I sitting emotionally? That was really sad. I mean, obviously, it's a terrible tragedy that happened, but, like, when you start getting immersed in the stories of the real people and things that happen, it's very sad.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah. The survival rate on the third class kids was painful.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: It was painful. I mean, yes. I mean, really. It was only first and second class, like, women and children that survived the Titanic raid. Very few men got off. Some did, but very few like you. Generally, the men, like, didn't survive. And, like, the third class passengers didn't. A lot of them didn't make.
Was not. Yeah, it was not. Not a good survival Right there.
But yeah, when you. When you go into Pigeon Forge, you know, there's. There's Alcatraz beach, which I think we talked about last time. The Titanic Museum, the Salt and Pepper Sugar Museum in Gatlinburg. There's a bunch of just wild museums and dinner theater experiences and just total chaos. Like Myrtle beach number two.
[00:31:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks like a beach strip, or like mini Vegas strip. Very lit up.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: Very weird.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: And when you're coming from the east, kind of like we are from Virginia, like, a lot of times we kind of go to North Carolina. But either way, you kind of find a blank forge first so you get the full experience of, wow, this is crazy. What am I driving through? There's seven lanes and just a mini Gulf palace on every corner.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: It comes out of nowhere, too. It's surprising. You're in the middle of nowhere, kind of driving west away from civilization, and then all of a sudden, you're in Reno, complete.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And then Gatlinburg is. It's a little bit more subtle than Vision Forge. Like, it's still very built up, but it's more like Rustic Resort, like what you'd be thinking. And we did the SkyPark this time.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: That was cool.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: That was very cool. So the sky park started out as just a ski lift up into the mountains.
That's right there. I think it's Grandfather Mountain, my dad calls it. Anyway, it lifts you right up there. And it used to be. I think it was built in the 50s, they said. And when it was built, it would just take you up the mountain. You'd take a picture. It's a little photo booth, like a strip of concrete, and then you go right back down. So just ride and ride down. And now they've expanded over decades, and it's a full park that's continually expanding. And they have a sky bridge that's suspended up there, which, like, sways a little bit in the wind. It's very cool. That takes you across from one landing to another. And there's these glass panels in the middle of it. So you just kind of walk over nothing. Like the glass.
[00:33:07] Speaker B: Panels.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: I was okay with it until, when we were standing on it, he's like, oh, yeah, this is only just a tiny little, like, three inches of glass here, but it's tempered glass, so it's really strong. And I'm like, oh, it was okay until you said that.
Yeah, when he put it that way.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: But he, like, did that part of the tour just standing on the middle of the. Yeah, yeah. Luckily, I'm not a straight nose kind of breeze.
[00:33:36] Speaker A: I was worried about you because you or not a heights person, it didn't bother me.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: I thought I was going to be more bothered to be honest.
[00:33:45] Speaker A: And they have four hiking trails up there and the sky bridge and there's like an observation deck, like the little, like tower, which is pretty cool. They have live music and fire pits and they just got a little restaurant up there that has burgers.
It was very cool.
[00:34:04] Speaker B: It has a great view over Gatlinburg. The mountain backdrop.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: I mean, really, it's one of the most beautiful views we saw. It's like a candidate for the book cover because it has Gatlinburg and the mountains.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: It doesn't have any ghosts associated with it. So what are you going to do?
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Well, there was a fire that ravaged that whole area, so I'm sure lots of people and animals die.
[00:34:32] Speaker B: That's happy.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: I can turn anything into a haunted story.
[00:34:37] Speaker B: Well, when it's all fiction, I guess you can do whatever you want with it.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: What was your favorite legend of illustration?
[00:34:49] Speaker B: Favorite legend?
I like spear finger, I think.
[00:34:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: I'm sure we brought her up before. She's a witch that wanders the mountains and she has this like, knife, like sharp finger. I think they call it a spear finger because it's like rock. It's like granite or something. A little spear. Yeah.
[00:35:12] Speaker B: We like, researched her a little bit after.
[00:35:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: She has like, stone skin. She sounded worse when you actually like.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: And would cut out children's. Is it liver?
[00:35:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:23] Speaker A: Eat them.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: The spear.
[00:35:24] Speaker A: The spear finger. And it's funny, I didn't. When I heard it, I'm like, oh, it sounds like an old colonial tale to keep kids from like, wandering off of a path. But it actually dates back to the Cherokee. The Cherokee people started the spear finger's legend first, and then it went through.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: And it has a different name. Right. There's like a Cherokee name. I can't remember what it.
[00:35:45] Speaker A: They have a Cherokee name for their ghost too. Their sibling is like what they call the spirits.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Wasn't something that translates to like stone skin maybe.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: Yes. I don't remember, but yes it was.
She was very.
Yeah. Reference our book to find out more.
Spear finger was great.
[00:36:08] Speaker B: I like the wampus cat. I just like the word wampus wampus. So I guess that's. I mean, you've heard like the word catty wampus, right?
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: The same edamali?
[00:36:22] Speaker A: I think so. Yeah. And then the wampus cat. The wampus cat transitions through different, like, cultures and areas. It's not just the Smokies, but their version of the wampus cat is unique because it's like part bear. Cuz bears are all over the Smokies, right? They're things. It's like part bear, part cat.
[00:36:40] Speaker B: It's almost like somebody mistook it for a bear.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Right?
What are you thinking?
[00:36:49] Speaker B: Idiot.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: That was very. That was very exceptional. I don't know. They just have so many unique legends. There was another one I was thinking of recently that has just totally lost on me now.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: But there's a lot of specific ghost stories. And the other. You have a car, hike, roaring fork, motor, nature trail is like the hitchhiker.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: Yeah, Lucy. It's funny because you hear, like, lucy, the hitchhiking ghost. And to be honest, I know you're not like a big ghost story fan, but that story is told throughout, like, many different iterations throughout every culture. It just is mildly adapted. Like, I've heard that story hundreds of times in different places.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: What, like a hitchhiker? There's always a hitchhiker.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: Well, it's usually a young woman who gets picked up by a man, like, you know, in the hitchhiking. And then he falls in love with her and he decides, oh, I'm gonna go back and ask for an end in marriage, or I'm gonna go see if I can date her. Like, whatever's appropriate for the time of the tale.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Right?
[00:37:58] Speaker A: And then he comes back to the house to ask her parents, you know, like, oh, can I see Lucy? Then this choice is Lucy. And they're like, oh, she died decades ago, you know, and then it's like, oh, she was a ghost, right?
[00:38:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: And in this version of it, because it's like old Appalachia.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: I'll tell you the version I like.
Peewee's big adventure.
Have you ever seen that?
[00:38:25] Speaker A: I think it's his big adventure a long time ago.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: And he's the hitchhiker When a trucker picks him up. It's like, crazy. Marv.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: What?
[00:38:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: But he wasn't a ghost.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: No, she's a ghost.
Driver's the ghost. Yeah.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Oh, weird. Really?
[00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just very out of place. There's like, this random ghost story in Peewee, and she does, like, a crazy ghost face, like, freak out at the end. And she's like, well, that was an odd thing to have in Pee wee.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: What? I don't remember that at all.
Well, this version is very old Appalachia because they, like, specifically noted that she was barefoot when he picked her up, like, oh, you can't be walking home. You're barefoot. Right.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: And then he picked her up on horseback. So you think hitchhiking. You're like, oh, maybe old motor cars. This is like, horses. So he gives her a horse ride. How? Won his horse.
So this is like old Appalachia.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: It's the same hitchhiker story, but with horses.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: Yeah, with horses. And back in on Appalachia, which is interesting.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: I do think that there's some version of that story going back, you know, medieval times, horseback or something.
[00:39:43] Speaker A: Right. I'm sure those stories just recirculate and you're told in different ways, just like we're talking about.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: They're all iterations on the same.
I took some literature. I guess it was high school, because I didn't take any. I didn't take any liberal arts in college.
But there's like, 20 stories, and then every story you've ever read is basically an iteration on one of these 20 stories. There's like 20 archetypes. Right. And that's it. There's definitely some iteration of that, which I guess is kind of true.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: It's character archetypes put in different situations and how many situations can people really be put in?
[00:40:31] Speaker B: Right.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: So it becomes very repetitive.
Definitely.
I took an archetype class in college.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's interesting because it's always like, the maiden, the mother.
[00:40:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:48] Speaker A: The lover, the leader. There's, like, very specific types. And then there's, like, you know, Lucifer. Like, they have, like, the villain and, like, the innocent child.
[00:41:00] Speaker B: Who are you?
[00:41:04] Speaker A: We're all, like, variations of different archetypes, though. No one's a stud archetype. We're all pieces of each.
Like, to you, I'd be your lover. Right. But, like, to Adam, I'd be the mother. Like, you know, the point is, the archetypes are roles.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: It's relationship.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
But, yeah, it's the same stories. You're right.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: I'm just the Lucifer to everybody.
[00:41:30] Speaker A: Lucifee.
We were out getting some Gatlinburg Americana.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:38] Speaker A: And Adam had, like, a sticker book I got her, and she picked up the cat from Cinderella. It's like a Disney one. And she's like, groom. This groom is.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:41:48] Speaker A: And then your mom's like, oh, what's the cat's name? I'm like, it's Lucifer.
Lucifee.
If you ever watch Cinderella as an adult, it's about 40% the cat chasing the Disney. Yes.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: The Disney original.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: Yeah. The animated. It's literally like half of the story is the cat trying to eat the mice. I mean, it's pretty absurd how much of it is actually just the animation.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: A lot of screen time, irrelevant plot points.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: It's true. It's true.
Like in the beginning, when she's bringing them breakfast, there's a whole counter flower with a. The cat's just trying to eat the mice.
[00:42:31] Speaker B: You think they, like, kind of wrote out the main Cinderella and they're like, well, those are only, like, 30 minutes long.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: Gus, we gotta fill a lot of screen time here.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: We need some cute animals. So let's get Gus, Gus and Jacques.
[00:42:44] Speaker B: God, is that their names?
[00:42:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that's why the mouse at our house is Gus. Gus.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: I didn't know that.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: He's the chonky one.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: There's a little fat mouse, and then Jacques is the. Is the skinny mouse.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: I think they're the only ones that have names.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: Everyone else is just.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: Everyone else is just mice. And Bruno is the dog.
Lucifer is the cat.
I think Buzz are the only, like, named animals in there, but. Yeah.
Do you remember I. I always loved 101 Dalmatians? They had the Colonel and Sergeant Timbs who, like, secretly the best characters, Right? The dog and the cat. And there's a horse, too. I forget the horse's name.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: I do remember Sergeant Tibbs because, I mean, what a name.
[00:43:30] Speaker A: Right? Exactly. Well, he's the one that kind of goes in and tries to save the puppies because he's like a little cat and he sneaks in and.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah, Sergeant Tibbs.
[00:43:40] Speaker A: Yep.
Yep.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: What the hell are we talking about?
[00:43:44] Speaker A: Legends, storytellers. He all fits in together.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: We try to help his. Sergeant Tibs.
[00:43:51] Speaker A: He's like a military man.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: Military man.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: Military man.
But, yes, the Smokies is one very.
It's an interesting, interesting place.
[00:44:05] Speaker B: It's a weird mix of stuff.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: It. It has. We actually asked the guy at sky park about, like, the attendance, and there are many people that come to the Smokies to see the Great Smoky Mountains. And then there are just as many people that come just to be in Gatlinburg that have no interest in going into the mountains.
[00:44:25] Speaker B: Oh, definitely. I mean, it's like two totally different experiences. I mean, I even said when we were there because we did a day hiking.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:44:33] Speaker B: And then we filmed Weird World, like in the cities. And then we did some family. Yeah. Just tons of fun activities. And then we went back to hiking. And by the time we got back to the second round of all day hiking, I Was like. That felt like a different. It did a few days ago. Felt like a different trip here.
[00:44:51] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:44:52] Speaker B: Because things we did in between felt like a totally different place.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: Definitely. Yeah. It's full on, like, family vacation, beach town meets. Oh, yeah. We're in a national park.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: They're all very close. I mean. Yeah, you can get to where you feel like you're just in the middle of nowhere in five minutes outside of the main city.
[00:45:15] Speaker A: Very quickly.
Yeah, it was. It's definitely.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: I want to go back just for no reason.
[00:45:22] Speaker A: And to get to do some of the other hikes we didn't get to spend a lot of time on. There's so many hikes.
[00:45:27] Speaker B: We did, like, 43 or 44, and it's not even close to. I mean, there's hundreds of them out there.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: Yes.
And I mean, there's also just so much to do in Pigeon Forge and Gatling. But we also did the aquarium.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it was fun, which was lots.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Of fun, because they had. They have my African penguins.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Here we go.
Here we go.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: I just.
I could watch penguins, like, bobbing around in water all day. I don't know what it is. It's fascinating to me.
[00:45:59] Speaker B: I mean, our daughter kept asking, you know, oh, what.
[00:46:03] Speaker A: What kind of fish is that?
[00:46:04] Speaker B: You know, what kind of thing is this? Yeah, we don't we have any idea. Yeah, just a nice regular fish, regular yellow fish. And then she gets the penguin.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: What kind of thing is that?
[00:46:15] Speaker B: And you just go on this full, like, ramp, 73 of them left and blah, blah, blah.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: You can tell it's an African penguin because it has spots on its belly and one stripe on its belly.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: Anything else with a regular fish, regular jellyfish. And then 40 minute lecture on the various subspecies of penguins.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: I think I like penguins so much because they remind me of derby cats. I mean, like, really. We watch Charlie, so they all have their name bands on. Right. And we watched Charlie the penguin prune himself, like, and just clean himself like a cat. It looks like a cat. He's ruffling his feathers, just, like, pruning himself, and it just looks like a cat cleaning itself. I mean, it went on for a long time. And then, you know, another penguin comes over, and he starts getting his little aggro on him, like he's gonna attack him just like a cat. Right. I mean, we're finicky like cats. They want to kick each other's asses like cats.
Oh, he did. He was like, I'm done.
That's one of my other favorite things. Is penguin defense mechanisms. They like turn their head like a snake really aggressively back and forth and it looks kind of cute. So people would be like, oh, look what they're doing. Are they going to kiss? Oh, look at them. They're making their wings funny. And I'm like, oh, no. They're about to beat the crap out of each other. Like, that's the. What's the. If you don't get away from me, I'm going to pick out your eyes. Yeah. And he did. He started intimidating the other one and he ran away.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: And I said, oh, that's out of things. But.
[00:47:48] Speaker A: And then there was Momo.
[00:47:51] Speaker B: Momo.
[00:47:51] Speaker A: There was this like tiny little female penguin named momo that just laid down on her belly like a cat when they laid down. They look like cats when cats lay on their arms. Yeah.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: It's because.
[00:48:06] Speaker A: You did that.
Well, I guess. Is there anything else you'd like to say about Smokies? Michael? The whole book coming out. What can you tell people about the smokies that you'd like to give a teaser on?
[00:48:19] Speaker B: I think we covered it all right. I mean, the hikes are great.
They're pretty varied too.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: They range from this is a paved walkway to you are gonna trip over roots in this tiny little foot long.
[00:48:33] Speaker B: There are hikes that I would consider just a walk down a path.
[00:48:37] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: And then there are. I'm climbing a mountain. Yes. And they're all, you know, within 30.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: Minute drive of each other. Yes. It's interesting how much it goes from built up, well manicured park to backwoods. No one has been here in years kind of feel to them.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: But within a short distance, you don't have to drive three hours on your way to get to the backwood area.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Yes. It's incredibly. I mean, some of the roads stop being paved.
[00:49:03] Speaker B: There's a lot of variability in new elevation change. Some of the heights are just flat. Some of them are along rivers. Some of them are just in backwoods.
Yeah, it's a good. It's a good variety of stuff. Some of the old architecture is really cool.
There's a lot. And you're encouraged to visit them. You're not like trespassing. They're like specifically to be there and you know, enter.
And then you have the two main towns, cities Gatlinburg and Pittsburgh are just so not what you'd expect for a national park in the middle of, you know, the mountains. They are like little Vegas strips or you know, built up beach town feel.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: Right.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: With a lot of, I guess I guess there's a lot of family oriented stuff. There's also a lot of just party scene. I mean honestly, like there's a lot of kind of, kind of open to these sidewalk main road wineries. And it was like a moonshinery.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Yes. And there was that place that had THC infused margaritas.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: What is that?
[00:50:14] Speaker B: Sounds terrible.
[00:50:16] Speaker A: Terrifying.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: A lot of like arcades.
[00:50:21] Speaker A: Yes. Well, arcade. That.
[00:50:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah.
[00:50:25] Speaker A: To our daughter, every arcade is Chuck E. Cheese.
[00:50:27] Speaker B: A Chuck E. Cheese variant.
[00:50:29] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I guess something for everybody.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: Definitely. I, I like how rich it is.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: And lore, it's how huge or actual national park is massive.
[00:50:46] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:50:47] Speaker B: It's a, it shares multiple places, spans multiple states.
[00:50:50] Speaker A: But I mean like when you think of Shenandoah for instance.
[00:50:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: You think of like that's the one.
[00:50:56] Speaker B: That'S the one closest to us.
[00:50:57] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: And it's the one I tend to the most. So it's my personal template for what I expect a national park to be. And it is nothing like that.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: Right. You, you, you expect it to be very rustic. Right. That's how it is. And I don't think I could tell you any story stories about the area or legend. Like, you know, I'm sure there are some, but the Smokies, it's like there are just centuries of like legends and weird hybrid cryptid creatures and like, you know, like it goes back to like Cherokee legends and then like settler, the colonial settler legends.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: It just has, you know, a lot of bastardization.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: Exactly. The pre existing legends just like slightly change. But you can see like just there's so much history and lore and it's like this very, very well defined culture kind of just that exists like hidden in the woods there. That's what I like about it so much.
[00:51:56] Speaker B: But a lot of little hidden gems there.
[00:52:00] Speaker A: Too many hidden gems. It's really quite beautiful. So we can't recommend it enough. Make sure you guys check out when it comes out. You'll follow, follow MallorySadventures.com and Mallory's Adventures on Instagram and Weird World Adventures on Facebook because you'll see the release of our book Haunted Hikes in the Great Smoky Mountains through South Africa. And you can read all about the legends and lore of the Great Smoky.
[00:52:26] Speaker B: Mountains and it'll give you the hike.
[00:52:28] Speaker A: Information that too, for the people that don't like the lore as much.
And Weird World Adventures Season 2 will air on Amazon prime this fall and we'll have an episode on the Smokies.
[00:52:42] Speaker B: I paint her like one of my French girls on the Titanic.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: I've never let go. I did make him.
[00:52:50] Speaker B: That's in the.
It's in the special scenes.
[00:52:54] Speaker A: No, no, no. I did make him say I'm king.
All right, well, thank you guys so much for tuning in today. I'm your host, Mallory.
[00:53:12] Speaker B: And I'm your host, Michael.
[00:53:13] Speaker A: Be sure to follow us on mallorysadventures.com and until next time, everybody.
