Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Malorie Mackey: Hello, hello, hello everyone. Welcome back to Weird World Adventures, the podcast. I'm your host, Mallory.
[00:00:09] Michael Maldonado: And I'm your host, Michael.
[00:00:10] Malorie Mackey: And we're here to show you just how weird this world of ours really is.
So I have something fun for us to talk about today. And it's weird that I said that because it's kind of your idea.
[00:00:20] Michael Maldonado: Stealing my ideas.
[00:00:22] Malorie Mackey: So we should talk about obsolete technologies or things that we used to use growing up that will be irrelevant to people in the future.
To the point where they won't even know what they are.
[00:00:32] Michael Maldonado: Or already.
[00:00:32] Malorie Mackey: Or already don't know what they are.
[00:00:35] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:00:35] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, so I have a list here. But before we do the list, I did want to talk about two examples that we've brought up recently just in life.
One of them is just the TV Guide, but there's so many iterations of that that actually just.
That make me laugh because it started out as like a TV newspaper.
[00:00:55] Michael Maldonado: Was it its own newspaper or was it just a section?
[00:00:57] Malorie Mackey: I think it was a section of the newspaper. My grandparents used to be.
[00:01:00] Michael Maldonado: That's even before our time, right?
[00:01:03] Malorie Mackey: Well, it is, but it still existed in our time.
I would go to my grandparents house and they would literally have it out and highlight I Love Lucy because they wanted to watch I Love Lucy every time it came on. And they'd like find it in the guide in the newspaper and highlight it, bro.
[00:01:17] Michael Maldonado: Just stream it.
[00:01:20] Malorie Mackey: And that turned into the TV Guide channel. So when we were kids, that was
[00:01:25] Michael Maldonado: what I remember using.
[00:01:26] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, you'd go to a specific channel in your like channel guide.
Guide of channels, whatever. Like 35. You'd go there and then you'd have to watch it go from one to however many channels there were in a loop. And if you wanted to see what was on channel, channel 59 and you turn it on, it's on 63. You're like, well, I'm gonna be here for 10 minutes waiting for it to loop back.
[00:01:50] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, I remember also as a, you know, middle school aged boy, it would also show you like, you know, the channels that you didn't have. The naughty channel, you know, or even just like the adult channels, you know, we didn't have hbo.
My family didn't.
[00:02:12] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:02:12] Michael Maldonado: Have that kind of stuff. And Cinemax.
[00:02:15] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:02:16] Michael Maldonado: That kind of. Oh yeah. And it would be.
But it would show what was on those channels.
[00:02:21] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:02:22] Michael Maldonado: And you know, during the day it's just maybe they were R rated movies or whatever.
[00:02:26] Malorie Mackey: There's still movies.
[00:02:27] Michael Maldonado: But then, you know, I'd have like a few of My friends over and, you know, we'd be up till 3, 4 in the morning and was like, maybe after, like, 11pm midnight. You know, those.
Those mainstream movies go away, and it's just some, like, nasty, you know, porno stuff. Right? And you'd see them like, oh, yeah.
I remember having. I won't name any names here, but I remember I had one friend who would come over and we were. We were. I was like, way more of a computer geek. Video game. So that was. You know, we would go in a different room where the computer was and be playing video games all night. That was mostly what we did.
But I'd have this one guy that would come over and he would, you know, wait for that cutoff period. And then he'd try to watch, you know, Cinemax or whatever.
Had the naughty bits show on through the grain, you know, like the grainy.
The grainy version where they're just like, what you doing out there?
[00:03:30] Malorie Mackey: I know who that friend was.
[00:03:31] Michael Maldonado: I know you know who that friend was.
But even at the age of 13, 14, it was just weird to have this guy, like, in the other room. Like, we know what's happening out there.
Can't you do that at your house?
[00:03:46] Malorie Mackey: Right. How about weird in Company?
[00:03:50] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, weird. Anyways, I remember. I remember the tv adult.
I have no idea. I haven't.
[00:03:57] Malorie Mackey: I mean, we.
[00:03:59] Michael Maldonado: We didn't have, like, a particular falling out, but we just, you know, went around. We just grew apart and we just didn't have a lot in common. But, yeah, I don't. I don't have any idea what he. What he does.
[00:04:10] Malorie Mackey: Another good one, which I know you. We have a story about.
[00:04:13] Michael Maldonado: Well, before we move on. But there was also TV Guide.
[00:04:16] Malorie Mackey: Yes.
[00:04:17] Michael Maldonado: There was Own magazine, which has a famous Seinfeld episode about it.
[00:04:21] Malorie Mackey: Of course it does.
[00:04:22] Michael Maldonado: We've never mentioned Seinfeld on this pod, or. I've never mentioned Seinfeld on this podcast. So I just wanted to make sure I threw that out there.
[00:04:29] Malorie Mackey: Seinfeld is Mike's Buffy all about the Seinfeld.
[00:04:34] Michael Maldonado: Mm.
I'll stand by that.
[00:04:36] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:04:36] Michael Maldonado: Buffy's more embarrassing than Seinfeld. Than being a Seinfeld.
[00:04:38] Malorie Mackey: I don't think so. Not for a girl.
Then there's the rotary phone.
[00:04:47] Michael Maldonado: Well, yeah. I mean, that was the starkest example of, like, kind of a close generation gap that I'd ever experienced directly in my life with somebody.
[00:05:00] Malorie Mackey: Right.
Yeah. We were playing.
I don't know, it was one of the jackbox games. I think it might have been the Murder. The Murder man.
[00:05:07] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, it was the murder mystery. Like Murder Mansion.
[00:05:09] Malorie Mackey: Murder Mystery Mansion. Yeah, whatever. Yeah.
[00:05:11] Michael Maldonado: It has the little mini games in the middle of it.
[00:05:12] Malorie Mackey: Yeah. And they had to use their, like, their phone sensor to like draw, like what it would be like for a rotary phone. Like how to dial this number.
[00:05:21] Michael Maldonado: It gave you a number.
[00:05:22] Malorie Mackey: You need to dial it on.
[00:05:22] Michael Maldonado: And you had to dial it using,
[00:05:25] Malorie Mackey: you know, like streaming on your phone.
[00:05:27] Michael Maldonado: Emulated.
[00:05:27] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, like just dial on the rotary phone. And me and Mike are like, well, that's just so easy. Why would they give that to you?
[00:05:34] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, it's not a puzzle. It's just dialing a phone number.
[00:05:37] Malorie Mackey: His cousin and her husband, who. I mean, how much younger is she than us?
[00:05:41] Michael Maldonado: That's a good question. I don't think of them as that much younger, but they're a fair amount younger than me. I mean, I'm two and a half years older than you and they're probably, I don't know, three or four years younger than you.
[00:05:54] Malorie Mackey: Okay, but it's still not six or
[00:05:55] Michael Maldonado: seven years younger than you.
[00:05:56] Malorie Mackey: But not like, not even a decade. It's not even a decade.
[00:05:59] Michael Maldonado: I think we're the same generation. We're old. Like, I would be an old millennial.
[00:06:03] Malorie Mackey: Oh, and they're like young millennials.
[00:06:04] Michael Maldonado: I think they would be young millennials.
[00:06:05] Malorie Mackey: Well, they didn't know how to do it.
[00:06:07] Michael Maldonado: Not just not know how to do it, but had never crossed their minds.
[00:06:13] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:06:13] Michael Maldonado: Had never experienced. Had no idea what to do.
[00:06:16] Malorie Mackey: James, I don't know what to do. I don't know what. He was so exasperated that he had absolutely.
How to dial a rotary phone.
[00:06:25] Michael Maldonado: I thought they were messing with me at first.
[00:06:27] Malorie Mackey: Me too.
[00:06:27] Michael Maldonado: Because I was like, what do you.
[00:06:29] Malorie Mackey: I mean, it's intuitive to me. It's intuitive to me. I don't know.
[00:06:33] Michael Maldonado: It's intuitive if you've ever used one. But clearly.
[00:06:35] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:06:36] Michael Maldonado: They hadn't. I mean, it was.
Had never seen the technology.
[00:06:38] Malorie Mackey: They failed that, like, task in the game. And we thought it was a shoot. Like, wow, they gave you such an easy thing to do and they were just lost.
[00:06:48] Michael Maldonado: Yeah.
Lost in the way. Or it'd be like if some space faring future society came down, like, here's a tesseract.
Do stuff with it and be like, I have no idea what this is. Or they were that level of confused. It was good.
[00:07:02] Malorie Mackey: That's pretty wild.
[00:07:03] Michael Maldonado: I'd never seen something that just seemed totally like, yeah, I remember these. And I know exactly what to do in stark contrast with somebody with people That I just view as the same age. Like, close enough to have the same experiences and be like, wow, you've never seen this. How did I see this? If you hadn't, like, just went away between us that quickly, I guess it
[00:07:29] Malorie Mackey: did in my house. But it was like when we had it in my house growing up, I will say it was treated like an antique. I thought it was fun. I would. Like, it was a special thing. Like, do you wanna call Giggy? My grandmother, like, on the rotary phone. And I thought it was so cool to get to do that.
[00:07:42] Michael Maldonado: Yeah. My grandparents had one that I think functioned and I would mess with because it was kind of fun to use. Yeah. But, yeah, it wasn't. I guess it wasn't normal. Like the norm even then. It was.
[00:07:57] Malorie Mackey: No, we had the buttons. The phones with the buttons on the
[00:07:59] Michael Maldonado: wall with the big cord.
[00:08:02] Malorie Mackey: With the big cord. Yeah. Oh, boy.
Another good one which also kind of evolved over time, which I like is maps.
[00:08:11] Michael Maldonado: Well, sorry, the cord also reminded me.
[00:08:13] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:08:13] Michael Maldonado: We just recently had a friend ask us if we remembered the taste of the phone cord.
[00:08:23] Malorie Mackey: What?
[00:08:24] Michael Maldonado: Do you not hear that conversation just over the weekend?
[00:08:26] Malorie Mackey: Oh, my God. And I was like, the taste.
[00:08:28] Michael Maldonado: The taste of it. Of all of the senses that you would have thrown out there. The taste is in it.
[00:08:34] Malorie Mackey: Because he stuck it in his mouth.
[00:08:36] Michael Maldonado: I guess tuna, like, was biting on it.
[00:08:38] Malorie Mackey: Well, that's weird. I never did that.
[00:08:40] Michael Maldonado: I was like, the taste.
[00:08:41] Malorie Mackey: I can remember the feel, the flashback feel of it.
[00:08:43] Michael Maldonado: Maybe the smell of it.
[00:08:45] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, I can see the smell.
[00:08:46] Michael Maldonado: The taste. You're not supposed to eat it.
[00:08:49] Malorie Mackey: What?
[00:08:49] Michael Maldonado: At the source. It was never meant to be eaten.
[00:08:51] Malorie Mackey: What a bizarre thing to say.
[00:08:54] Michael Maldonado: That is not where I thought you were going to go with what.
[00:08:56] Malorie Mackey: I missed that conversation.
[00:08:57] Michael Maldonado: Okay, well, that was good, too.
[00:08:59] Malorie Mackey: Folding maps is another one. But the maps is another evolution. Because I never did the folding maps. I did Map quest.
[00:09:06] Michael Maldonado: I remember having folding maps. I never.
They were already gone by the time I was dry, like, driving, so I never really needed one. But I remember having a ton of them because my dad loved them. I'm sure he still. He probably still uses them. And we would do. We did, like, a fair amount of distance. Y ish driving growing up. And so there would just be like a pile of them in the car that just stayed in the car for, you know, for places like. Oh, yeah. Remember 10 years ago when we drove through Saguara National Park?
Here's the map for it.
[00:09:42] Malorie Mackey: So funny.
[00:09:43] Michael Maldonado: I used to kind of collect them out of the, like, Little map holders. If you went to like aaa, you could just like kind of grab them.
[00:09:50] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, they have them like in like travel tourism places too. Because they wanted you to be able to find their attractions.
I did MapQuest. I remember going on saying, this is where I live and this is where I'm going. And it would print out the directions and, and then show you a little map and I, I would bring that. But it was always so stressful to me because what if you. What if you missed your turn? You're screwed if you missed your turn. And how long is 3.7 miles when you're driving? It is very unintuitive. Did I pass it? I was so paranoid I would pass. I don't think I ever passed anything because I was so paranoid about it. But it was a long 3.7 miles trying to figure out when my right turn was.
[00:10:31] Michael Maldonado: You know, I also just now am so dependent on GPS that just knows where I am at any moment. Exactly. And can redirect me from anywhere.
[00:10:39] Malorie Mackey: Exactly.
[00:10:40] Michael Maldonado: That not just making a wrong turn and being. Welp, I'm screwed because I didn't map quest the wrong turn. So I have no idea how to get back. But how did people. This would also coincide when cell phones kind of weren't ubiquitous, right. So payphones. The fact that I was able to meet up at a scheduled time with eight other friends and actually get there and show we're all there is foreign to me even now. Because I don't think I could do that now if you said, I'm taking your phone away, be at this movie theater that you don't frequent at 8:30 and there's gonna be a heater of people there. I would just miss that turn and be like, well, I guess I'm not going to the movie tonight. Cause it's gonna take me all night to figure out how to get back home.
[00:11:27] Malorie Mackey: We also lost that feeling of waiting for, for your friends to show up and oh, they might be 10 minutes late. And that just happens. They can't just text you that they're running late or call like, so you're sitting there walking around, pacing, waiting for them to show up and because maybe
[00:11:41] Michael Maldonado: they made that wrong turn, it's not happening tonight.
[00:11:44] Malorie Mackey: That's. I've read. I've read arguments too, that that is kind of the reason why a lot of the younger generation has shorter attention spans, like the lack of just mindful existence. Because before, if you were meeting someone at a restaurant and they relate, you're sitting there and you're kind of in your thoughts. You're like picking up, paying attention to what's around you. You're not in your phone waiting for them. You're kind of more present naturally paying attention to your surroundings or thinking or being mindful. And now you're just in your phone the whole time waiting for them.
[00:12:15] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, I mean I think it's a confluence of things that led to that.
[00:12:18] Malorie Mackey: It's not like just madness, it's just that.
[00:12:21] Michael Maldonado: But yeah, you always have access to some clicky doom scrolly type thing right there in your pocket.
So you're never bored. I don't know, you're never doing nothing like waiting around. Right.
I mean memorizing phone numbers is another thing.
I know my own phone number and my phone number from my parents house growing up and that's literally the only numbers I have.
God, do I even say this on the.
I don't know your phone number.
[00:12:55] Malorie Mackey: I know your phone number.
[00:12:58] Michael Maldonado: Why?
[00:12:59] Malorie Mackey: You know what's actually really sad?
I know more old phone numbers. That long term memory retention for numbers stuck with me for some reason. Okay, your phone number in Brandermill was 7440896. Yep. My best friend Jaleesa's was 744-8898. Mine was 744-5306. Then you guys moved to Gates Mill, right? And it was what? 639-9074.
[00:13:25] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, yeah, that's one of the two numbers. I know that one.
[00:13:28] Malorie Mackey: And then 873-9074 became Marissa's. I just.
[00:13:34] Michael Maldonado: Let's just throw out some phone numbers.
[00:13:36] Malorie Mackey: I mean like anyone's gonna call them. They're old, they don't work anymore.
[00:13:39] Michael Maldonado: I guess they're not even.
[00:13:40] Malorie Mackey: They're my childhood numbers.
[00:13:42] Michael Maldonado: We don't have those numbers anymore.
[00:13:44] Malorie Mackey: But I distinctly. I thought about it. They're old. I distinctly remember all of the old important numbers that I had growing up.
[00:13:54] Michael Maldonado: But why do you know my number?
[00:13:56] Malorie Mackey: I called it all the time.
[00:13:58] Michael Maldonado: You know my current phone number.
[00:13:59] Malorie Mackey: I do. Because I used to call you all the time.
[00:14:01] Michael Maldonado: I know. I mean my cell phone.
[00:14:02] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, I used to call you all the time and I put it in.
[00:14:05] Michael Maldonado: Oh, but I mean I just have
[00:14:06] Malorie Mackey: you saved and then I know it is. It is obsolete to learn phone numbers now. I'm just in there. It doesn't even have your phone.
You need to remember the important contacts because if you don't, your phone might die, you might be stuck somewhere and then you don't have that person's phone number.
[00:14:24] Michael Maldonado: I have the important phone the contact myself.
[00:14:27] Malorie Mackey: Right. I'm gonna call me.
[00:14:28] Michael Maldonado: I'm gonna call me when I lose my phone.
I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying when I call you, it doesn't even show your number. I mean you're saved as your name and it has your face on there so I don't even see it in like just absorb it over time. It's just, it's hidden under like a layer or two of clicking.
You're just a button I push on the screen of the phone and it dials your face.
[00:14:55] Malorie Mackey: Speaking of calling. Speaking of calling.
Dial up modems. I don't think, I don't even think Taylor, my younger sister, would recognize the sound.
[00:15:04] Michael Maldonado: I was gonna say, I actually think that sound is such a very specific piece of time that you could age somebody probably within like a 15 year span.
[00:15:20] Malorie Mackey: I agree.
[00:15:21] Michael Maldonado: By if they recognize that sound or not.
[00:15:23] Malorie Mackey: Oh yeah, that.
It brings me back to trying to get on aim. Something else no one will ever know.
And then you'd be on aim. Yeah, yeah.
[00:15:39] Michael Maldonado: Sitting there on aim.
[00:15:40] Malorie Mackey: Oh look, there's a sound. There's one here you can play. I mean that's pretty good.
[00:15:48] Michael Maldonado: How about just some of the aims then? Or the door opening, Door closing, friends.
[00:15:51] Malorie Mackey: Oh my God, I hear it. You said it.
[00:15:53] Michael Maldonado: I can hear it. Oh yeah, I can feel it.
[00:15:56] Malorie Mackey: That was when I was a teenager and it was such an emotional time. I hope this boy I like is on. I hope this girl I like is on her and I. I want to talk to so and so and just that the feels that come with it.
[00:16:06] Michael Maldonado: Wait for that door open.
Or how about the worst sound? You're talking to that, that boy or girl you like. And then like mid conversation the door closed and you're just like, was it me?
[00:16:18] Malorie Mackey: Was it me? Like what, what did I do?
[00:16:20] Michael Maldonado: Did they just lose their connection or did I, was it me?
[00:16:25] Malorie Mackey: Did I do something?
[00:16:25] Michael Maldonado: They blocked me. Maybe it was just me. Are they still on?
[00:16:28] Malorie Mackey: I love speaking of away messages. No one will ever appreciate away messages anymore either.
Yeah, angsty away messages. Thinking of them leaving you in the mid conversation, that's just.
[00:16:39] Michael Maldonado: Well people still put angsty like Facebook.
[00:16:41] Malorie Mackey: That's true. They just moved.
[00:16:43] Michael Maldonado: They moved. It just got moved. That will never die. Whatever tech is the current tech. There will be always angsty emo quotes to be posted.
[00:16:52] Malorie Mackey: So I was in a work meeting and one of our clients was driving through the area to go to something, some future date, right? And one of my co workers, he. He Goes, oh, great. Can we, like, meet with you when you're in town? Maybe grab some lunch? And then his Internet just went off
[00:17:08] Michael Maldonado: at the worst time.
[00:17:09] Malorie Mackey: He left the meeting.
[00:17:11] Michael Maldonado: And he's like, I'll take that as a no.
[00:17:14] Malorie Mackey: That's what he said. I'll take that as a hard no.
It was great.
[00:17:18] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, it's good.
[00:17:20] Malorie Mackey: I disagree with this one. Cigarettes. I disagree with that.
[00:17:22] Michael Maldonado: I have to figure out one.
Aim Am went away, like, within the last 10 years, wasn't it? It had, like, a funeral day. It was.
[00:17:33] Malorie Mackey: Did it? Yeah.
[00:17:35] Michael Maldonado: Should look it up. But it was.
Not that anyone used it, but it was a functioning application into, like, recent ish times.
[00:17:45] Malorie Mackey: Really?
[00:17:46] Michael Maldonado: Yeah.
I still have, I think, remember, you could export your buddy, like your friend. Listen.
[00:17:53] Malorie Mackey: Yes.
[00:17:54] Michael Maldonado: As, like, just. I forget what file type was an AIM dot, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
[00:17:58] Malorie Mackey: Yes.
[00:17:59] Michael Maldonado: I had it saved just in case I ever, you know, something happened to my AIM account. I lose all this important context.
[00:18:04] Malorie Mackey: How could you lose all those AIM numbers?
[00:18:08] Michael Maldonado: What was your screen name?
[00:18:10] Malorie Mackey: I had two.
[00:18:11] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:18:12] Malorie Mackey: Renee7676. Because I really liked the number 76. I don't know why. I don't know why.
[00:18:17] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:18:17] Malorie Mackey: And Renee was a character in Sailor Moon.
[00:18:19] Michael Maldonado: I do remember making fun of you for Sailor Moon.
[00:18:21] Malorie Mackey: Set that Marshmallow Makona. Makona is one of the characters in Ray Earth. Didn't you play something related to Rayearth recently? Or we tried to get you to Magic Knight Rayearth. Jimmy played something and then watched Rare. I was trying to get him to watch it forever, and he actually watched. They were in one of the games you played or something. I think the character, it was like,
[00:18:41] Michael Maldonado: referenced or something like that.
[00:18:42] Malorie Mackey: Referenced something like that. Makona was that weird, bouncy little bunny thing.
[00:18:46] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:18:46] Malorie Mackey: This came up recently. I have a stuffed animal of him.
[00:18:49] Michael Maldonado: Of course you do.
[00:18:50] Malorie Mackey: And you're like.
So I was Marshmallow Makona because he was squishy like a marshmallow.
[00:18:56] Michael Maldonado: All right.
[00:18:56] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:18:58] Michael Maldonado: Good.
[00:18:59] Malorie Mackey: You were Fishburne.
[00:19:01] Michael Maldonado: I was Fishburne three.
[00:19:02] Malorie Mackey: I remember that because I liked three. Right.
[00:19:05] Michael Maldonado: And I have just as much rationale for it as you like the 76.
And I can tell you the iteration of Fishburne because it's even dumber than the things you gave me.
[00:19:16] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:19:17] Michael Maldonado: But pre Aim. Pre even, I think having the Internet. When I was in third or fourth grade, I lived in Okinawa. And my friend who lived next to me there, we were buddies. He was one year above. He was a one year Older than me. So, you know, he was like the mature, more, you know, worldly figure.
And this several year younger kid moved in. It was a military base, so there was a lot of churn.
And this kid would always try to tag along with us, but we were far too, far too old and cool to allow that.
And we gave him fake names. We told him fake names. When he asked us what our names were. I don't know if we ever told him our real name. He actually thought we were these names for a while.
[00:20:07] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:20:09] Michael Maldonado: But my friend who's older said his name was Larry and that I was Fishburne.
And I didn't even know that he met Laurence Fishburne the actor. I didn't know who that actor was. I don't. You know, I guess that one year difference made a difference back then.
[00:20:26] Malorie Mackey: But he couldn't have just called you Larry or Lawrence.
[00:20:29] Michael Maldonado: No, he was Larry.
[00:20:30] Malorie Mackey: Yeah. And you were Lauren Fishburne.
[00:20:33] Michael Maldonado: And.
And I never rec. I never registered that for years, like for, I mean, solidly years.
So I moved away and moved back to the U.S. and then in sixth grade, aim came on. Everyone was on it, or I don't know your ears. But that's when I got access to it.
[00:20:51] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:20:51] Michael Maldonado: And I was like, well, I'll just be Fishburne. I like that was already Fishburne last year, so I'll just be Fishburne now. But I didn't even know it was the actor, so I spelled it F, I, S, H, Bishop, B, U, R, N, Fish. Like a. Like a burning fish.
And then I just picked three because I like the number three.
[00:21:08] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:21:09] Michael Maldonado: And that was my screen name until AAM died like five years ago.
[00:21:13] Malorie Mackey: I can't believe it only died five years ago. It's been dead forever.
[00:21:16] Michael Maldonado: I think it was more than five years.
It had a. And it's. You cannot get on AAM.
[00:21:21] Malorie Mackey: I'm gonna Google it.
[00:21:22] Michael Maldonado: Okay. But yeah, Fishburne 3.
[00:21:24] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:21:25] Michael Maldonado: And that was also my gaming tag. Yeah, it was kind of. Still. I think it's still my PlayStation tag because I can't.
[00:21:31] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:21:31] Michael Maldonado: You know, all my stuff for decades is tied to it, so I like it.
You shouldn't.
You shouldn't like it. It's a dumb. A dumb name to have.
[00:21:40] Malorie Mackey: Alright. It's dumb.
December 2017.
[00:21:43] Michael Maldonado: I told you. Yeah, like pretty recent. I mean, God, that is almost 10 years ago.
[00:21:47] Malorie Mackey: 2017.
That is insane. What?
What? Who was on AIM in 2016? I was.
[00:21:58] Michael Maldonado: What do you mean?
I was finishing my fellowship in medicine the year AIM went Away I was, you know, I would log into it, you know, and make sure maybe that girl I had a crush on, she might log. Just waiting for that one in a million door open sound.
[00:22:17] Malorie Mackey: Yeah. Cause she's definitely on AIM in 2017.
[00:22:21] Michael Maldonado: You never know.
[00:22:22] Malorie Mackey: I will say I got another good one.
[00:22:23] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:22:24] Malorie Mackey: White pages, phone books. Bran or mill, where we grew up, used to have a community phone book. And they would just stick it outside your door, along with the white pages and the yellow pages. Those don't exist anymore as a physical book.
[00:22:37] Michael Maldonado: Well, our current community gave out a physical book.
[00:22:41] Malorie Mackey: What?
[00:22:41] Michael Maldonado: Like until two or three years ago. I have, I have them downstairs. They're in the cabin taking up space.
[00:22:47] Malorie Mackey: Oh my God. I do. I have a question.
How do kids learning to drive that are too short manage these days?
He used to sit on a phone book.
That was what you would do. Okay, but I mean, what do you do now?
[00:23:02] Michael Maldonado: Books still exist. There wasn't anything.
[00:23:04] Malorie Mackey: Not the same.
[00:23:04] Michael Maldonado: There wasn't anything specific about a phone.
[00:23:07] Malorie Mackey: It was like flexible enough for your butt, so you felt good.
[00:23:10] Michael Maldonado: It's a soft cover book.
[00:23:12] Malorie Mackey: It's like. I can't explain the difference. It's not just. It's a thick, soft cover.
[00:23:16] Michael Maldonado: Did you have to sit on a phone book?
[00:23:17] Malorie Mackey: I did.
[00:23:17] Michael Maldonado: I was gonna say, how do you. You have a lot of. Okay.
Wow. Were you that tiny at 16?
[00:23:23] Malorie Mackey: I like finished growing really late. I was very. Me and Marissa were the two smallest children at Swift Creek Middle School.
[00:23:31] Michael Maldonado: Because you're slightly above average height for
[00:23:35] Malorie Mackey: a woman in the U.S. yeah, I'm a good height. I'm like, I'm. I'm the low end model height, size, so I'm tall.
But I used to like, I grew very late where I had the growth and tallness, I guess.
[00:23:48] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:23:49] Malorie Mackey: Because I used to be. I was like the runt in middle school and I was late growing. Late growing. But yeah, phone books and pagers.
[00:24:00] Michael Maldonado: So I can tell you about pagers. I know again, probably the last place they died out was in healthcare.
[00:24:09] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:24:09] Michael Maldonado: And I used. I actively had and used a pager until 2018.
And I'm sure they didn't die then. That's just when I finished my fellowship and no longer needed a pager.
[00:24:24] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:24:24] Michael Maldonado: Like in my, My current job doesn't.
It's all application based stuff and I don't, I don't really on, like when I'm on call, I just, I'm just working.
[00:24:33] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:24:33] Michael Maldonado: I'm not like on backup pager call anymore, like covering a hospital.
But Yeah, I actively used it in 2018, I had one. I dreaded. Dreaded it. Right. It was.
I.
I knew pretty early on that any kind of specialty that was going to require me to like be home waiting for my beeper to go off to like drive was just not for me because it gave me so much stress.
Oh, yeah. Carrying that thing.
[00:25:04] Malorie Mackey: Oh, yeah.
[00:25:05] Michael Maldonado: My fellowship year, I probably got paged in the middle of the night a dozen times in the whole year. I mean, it was pretty. It was a pretty minimal burden.
But the amount of anxiety and lost sleep.
Also, I never actually had to go into the hospital. I had a station at home. Like, I could answer the questions from home. So we're talking a half an hour of disrupted sleep at work. So it was like a pretty minimal call experience. But even that gave me so much anxiety that I would just be up till like 4 or 5 in the morning waiting, you know, for it to go. I just could not sleep with it there before.
[00:25:44] Malorie Mackey: Pagers. Was it like scrubs, where they would like be on call and spend the night at the hospital?
[00:25:50] Michael Maldonado: I did that. You did that as an intern?
[00:25:54] Malorie Mackey: That sounds terrible.
[00:25:56] Michael Maldonado: It was.
[00:25:56] Malorie Mackey: You spend the night at the hospital.
[00:25:57] Michael Maldonado: Yeah.
And have the pager they had. Because you'd have. You'd have. Well, you know, I mean, being a resident. Yes, the words. Because you lived in the hospital, you were a resident in the hospital.
[00:26:12] Malorie Mackey: Never thought of it that way, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:26:17] Michael Maldonado: And then when I was in residency for radiology, we had overnight. We had 14 hour shifts that went through the night. There's. You weren't. You weren't waiting for the patriarch though, because there was just no rest. There was no interruption. You just worked straight. There was no break.
So it was just a shift. So I was like, terrible. That's even worse, right?
[00:26:36] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:26:37] Michael Maldonado: But I as an intern, I did an intern year in internal medicine and yeah, everyone had to do X number of in house overnight.
There was bunk beds and.
[00:26:51] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, I saw them in Scrubs.
[00:26:52] Michael Maldonado: Yeah.
[00:26:53] Malorie Mackey: Which is back, by the way. We have to watch it.
[00:26:55] Michael Maldonado: Oh, okay.
[00:26:56] Malorie Mackey: We're not sponsored by scrubs. I just like Scrubs.
[00:26:59] Michael Maldonado: I'm not like a big. Watching healthcare related stuff because I don't know, I already haven't. I've had enough of it in my life. I don't need to then watch it on tv. But I will say of all the ones that I've seen, Scrubs is probably one of the closest to how it really felt.
It's so to be in healthcare, it felt like that way More than Grey's Anatomy or any like these more dramatic ones.
[00:27:24] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:27:24] Michael Maldonado: Yeah.
[00:27:25] Malorie Mackey: Right.
I have one more before we call it. And I think it's a good one.
[00:27:28] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:27:30] Malorie Mackey: Because a lot of the stuff on these lists are just like. People still use these, but. But this is good.
I watched a video, I'm not gonna say what it is yet. Of someone showing this object to Gen Z's. Like the Gen Z and lower. And they just have no idea what it is. And they're just exasperated. Do you know what it is?
[00:27:48] Michael Maldonado: Can you give me more than an object.
[00:27:51] Malorie Mackey: Computer related.
[00:27:52] Michael Maldonado: Computer related.
A floppy disk.
[00:27:59] Malorie Mackey: A floppy disk?
[00:27:59] Michael Maldonado: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Right.
[00:28:01] Malorie Mackey: There's videos of people just looking at floppy disks, like what is this? And like trying to guess what it is. And they're just wrong.
[00:28:06] Michael Maldonado: With the little gray. The little gray square with the little pulley metal piece.
[00:28:09] Malorie Mackey: Yep. The floppy disk.
[00:28:10] Michael Maldonado: Do you know why they were called floppy disks? That's. And it always seems ironic. Because it's a hard piece of plastic. Why? Because the disc is a little floppy piece of magnetic. If you ever broke one open.
[00:28:21] Malorie Mackey: Is floppy in there?
[00:28:22] Michael Maldonado: Yeah. The plastic container was just to protect it.
[00:28:25] Malorie Mackey: Yeah. Floppy disks are another one that. Why would you ever use it? Did you ever see the amount of space on it?
[00:28:30] Michael Maldonado: Did you ever. I forget what they were called. Maybe just discs. But the tech preceding the floppy disks, they were just giant, like hard. They looked like.
Like vinyl.
[00:28:43] Malorie Mackey: Oh, weird.
How much space do you think a floppy disk could hold?
[00:28:49] Michael Maldonado: Oh, kilobytes, I think was this like. And then I think they had. I think the final iteration of them before they got just totally replaced with DVDs. They were like. They were like high density ones that were probably into the megabytes.
[00:29:04] Malorie Mackey: 1.44 megabytes.
[00:29:07] Michael Maldonado: Was that the standard?
[00:29:08] Malorie Mackey: That was the most common. 3.5 inch, which became the standard in the 80s, could hold 1.44 megabytes.
[00:29:18] Michael Maldonado: Okay. That's a little bit more than. I guess.
[00:29:20] Malorie Mackey: But yeah, before that earlier, smaller density disk held about 720 kilobytes.
That's tiny.
[00:29:28] Michael Maldonado: Have you ever actually seen like a CD or a DVD under super magnification? You know. You know, the bits are actually just burned onto the disk. It's actually. It is actually reading.
[00:29:41] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:29:42] Michael Maldonado: So like when it can hold, you know, 1 gigabyte.
[00:29:45] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:29:45] Michael Maldonado: It can hold that many little O's and like zeros and ones in, you know.
[00:29:50] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
Also just the evolution from floppy disk to cd. I bet you anyone from Gen Z now would see a CD and think that it's like a dvd. Right. Like, they're not going to know much about what a CD is, and especially not think of it as something you store data on for a computer.
[00:30:05] Michael Maldonado: Yeah, but I mean, the. The transition from cd, CD to DVD is. So it's basically the same tech. Right. It's just like a. Like a much larger space, whereas the. The floppy disk. It looks like a foreign.
[00:30:19] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, it does, but just. I mean, even like. Like CDs as CDs.
[00:30:24] Michael Maldonado: Mm.
[00:30:26] Malorie Mackey: The MP4 players came around when I was like 14, 13 years old.
[00:30:31] Michael Maldonado: Right.
[00:30:31] Malorie Mackey: So someone that's Taylor's age who was a baby then.
[00:30:35] Michael Maldonado: Yeah. I remember getting my first.
My first ipod. Like the little.
[00:30:40] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, the tiny ones.
[00:30:42] Michael Maldonado: The tiny ones. And I got.
I think I got it for Christmas or some birthday or Christmas.
[00:30:49] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:30:50] Michael Maldonado: And I made.
I forget what my parents got or my grandparents got it for me, but had it inscribed, you know, with an angsty quote on the back of it. Right.
[00:31:00] Malorie Mackey: The first ones were kind of big.
And then I got a shuffle one like where it just shuffled through X amount of. And it was. It was like this big. It was like a tiny inch by inch.
[00:31:09] Michael Maldonado: I had the standard.
[00:31:10] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:31:10] Michael Maldonado: One where you could manipulate it a little bit.
[00:31:12] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:31:14] Michael Maldonado: What's the. What's the. I think it. Is it Shakespeare? The. If. If music Beatle something of life, play on. It's a famous quote.
Whatever that famous quote is, is what was engraved on the back of my iPad. Or iPad. My ipod.
[00:31:34] Malorie Mackey: Oh, I just. It just came up.
If music be the food of love, play on.
It's from Twelfth Night.
[00:31:44] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:31:44] Malorie Mackey: Yeah, it's from Twelfth Night. It's Shakespeare.
[00:31:46] Michael Maldonado: Oh, yes. I was that cultured as a.
[00:31:49] Malorie Mackey: Because you definitely knew it was from Twelfth Night. And you definitely read Twelfth Night and understood Shakespeare.
[00:31:58] Michael Maldonado: Of course.
Right.
[00:32:01] Malorie Mackey: Anyway, hey, ladies, what do you want
[00:32:04] Michael Maldonado: to listen to on my ipod?
Oh, and by the way.
Because, you know, like, I. Like I always say, if music be the food of love, play on.
[00:32:16] Malorie Mackey: Just like that.
[00:32:17] Michael Maldonado: Just like that.
[00:32:18] Malorie Mackey: Just like that doesn't come off.
[00:32:20] Michael Maldonado: And then I was horrifying at all.
Yeah. I don't know why I wasn't popular.
[00:32:29] Malorie Mackey: I think that's a good amount of things. Can you think of anything else?
[00:32:31] Michael Maldonado: I'm sure we came up with a million more, but. Yeah, that's a good mix.
[00:32:34] Malorie Mackey: Believe it or not, a lot of the list I found, like, a lot of them are just not obsolete enough. Like, everyone knows what a typewriter is because they came back and they're cool. Right. Like, disc that's why things like floppy disk, they're not cool.
[00:32:45] Michael Maldonado: Have you ever used a typewriter?
[00:32:47] Malorie Mackey: I love typewriters.
[00:32:48] Michael Maldonado: Really?
[00:32:48] Malorie Mackey: Yeah.
[00:32:48] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:32:49] Malorie Mackey: They're like. I have too weird and clunky.
It's weird and clunky.
[00:32:53] Michael Maldonado: Yeah.
[00:32:54] Malorie Mackey: The fact that you couldn't erase.
[00:32:55] Michael Maldonado: Well, yes. I mean, that's a big knot selling point.
[00:32:58] Malorie Mackey: Right, Right. That is the big not selling point. It's fun to have it as like a trinket in your office, but not actually to use it. Yeah, of course.
[00:33:07] Michael Maldonado: I mean, as with many things.
[00:33:09] Malorie Mackey: Right.
[00:33:10] Michael Maldonado: Your office is full of trinkets. We're not using a lot of that stuff. I mean, I do get a lot of uses out of the penis gourd, but.
[00:33:16] Malorie Mackey: Right, right. Let's just talk about that.
[00:33:19] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:33:19] Malorie Mackey: And the Victorian microscope, I use that daily.
[00:33:22] Michael Maldonado: I wonder if that works. You know, I have a.
[00:33:25] Malorie Mackey: He's a daily.
[00:33:26] Michael Maldonado: Okay. Okay.
I have a working light microscope still.
[00:33:35] Malorie Mackey: Ooh, good stuff. Good stuff. Oh, my God. All right, thank you so much for tuning in today, everybody. Please be sure to check out mallorysadventures.com to follow us for more UPD every day. And also, Weird World Adventure Season 2 should be coming out on Amazon prime any moment here. Michael's super angsty about it. Angsty, Anxious and antsy.
Angsty.
[00:34:00] Michael Maldonado: Angsty is what I meant when I had that eye.
[00:34:03] Malorie Mackey: Angsty about it because, you know, it's not in our control anymore. They're putting it out there.
[00:34:09] Michael Maldonado: Yeah. I don't like things that aren't right.
[00:34:11] Malorie Mackey: I know in my.
[00:34:14] Michael Maldonado: I'm not doing anything now. We finished and now this means you
[00:34:17] Malorie Mackey: don't have to edit it more, though. So there's.
[00:34:19] Michael Maldonado: I know it's a good thing, but I don't know.
[00:34:22] Malorie Mackey: It will be out as soon as the gods of Film Hub and Amazon prime decide.
[00:34:28] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:34:28] Malorie Mackey: Okay.
[00:34:29] Michael Maldonado: Okay.
[00:34:31] Malorie Mackey: Thank you so much for tuning in today, everybody. I'm your host, Mallory.
[00:34:34] Michael Maldonado: And I'm your host, Michael.
[00:34:35] Malorie Mackey: And until next time, everybody stay weird
[00:34:40] Michael Maldonado: and play on.
